Wemby or bust, trade the picks if we don't get Wemby.

Ideally you’d want him or I should say I’d want him as the #2 or #3 option if lucky but he had 26/4.5/2.7 on 48% FG, 38% 3PT and 61% TS. I know it’s not a full season sample but not small either. Those are impressive numbers regardless and higher efficiency than when he was in PHX on much greater volume. Combine that with his iron man status of hardly ever missing any games his entire career and I’d say you could do a lot worse than Bridges as your best player aka #1 option.

 

32.4% for Henderson - see HP posts - don't get suckered into DD splits revisionism.

On the FT thing- i don't think it matters.

My understanding is that FT% is a good indicator for predicting how well college 3 point % - from a shorter range - maps to potential NBA 3 point range

That's not as useful for us here, because. In Henderson's case we don't need a predictor for how he'll do from NBA range we just... use his NBA range in the G league.

Again i absolutely understand the importance 3s Make at the elite elite all NBA levels when you're trying to differentiate on MVP ballots- but for people to turn their nose up at Henderson because he merely projects to posess Ja, Russ, Rose, level accuracy rather than Steve Nash or Steph Curry strikes me as a bit too nitpicky.

Harden had arguably the greatest individual offensive season since MJ in front of our very eyes by shooting... the league average (.355)

So, while i get the criticism that Henderson may never be truly elite from 3, it's just crazy to take a single G league split and say it means he'll never be "good enough" which is not as high a number as people think

 

We only just drafted an elite college shooter who ended up shooting 30% from the NBA 3. If Scoot manages 30% in addition to everything else he brings then it’s an absolute win lol

 

Hi Sam I did re-edit my post later. His year 2 is 32.4% and year 1 is 17.4% . Honestly that efficiency isn't great either, but since the attempts are so low; it doesn't tell us much, outside that he doesn't shoot that many 3's.

On the FT %, it's a broad barometer, I don't swear by it, but if he had above avg FT%, he would have won me over more. His stats doesn't jump off the page. But that's ok, all these stats are limited info; it's just one of many factors Rockets Org likely use to evaluate a player.

I personally am not on the hype train; but if we get #2, I'm also not against taking him.

 

DD being deceptive to twist things in favor of his agenda/narrative is a hallmark of his along with doubling down on his bad takes. Nothing new here.

 

I'm in the minority.. I'd take Scoot no.1 any damn way.. But I'd probably attempt to trade down to no.2 and get a nice epic haul from SA or Detroit.. Then package those picks and some players ( Sengun, KPJ, or whomever i poached from SA or Det) for a potential Allstar in his prime ( M. Bridges, maybe Towns_ Bam ).. But that's just me. I dig the Wembayo praise but I'd pass...

Scoot
Green
Bridges or KPJ if I can't get Bridges
Bari
Towns or Bam

Bench:
Tari
KMJ
Whatever starters I poach from Det or SA in the trade ..
Sign a vet PG

 

If we had a winning core right now we would've won more than 22 games this season, DD. Yes, the young guys will improve, yes a new coach will probably help. But that doesn't change the fact that we are very far from winning with this group. We are not just a few veteran pieces away from a winning team. We are maybe a few veteran pieces away from 30-35 wins, if things go pretty well.

It's fine to aim for and expect improvement next season, but if you are expecting to contend for anything, or honestly... probably even have a winning record at all... you are setting yourself up for disappointment. I think the only way we're likely to even break .500 is if it's a perfect storm kind of situation, like we land Wemby and Harden comes back and one of the young guys takes a huge step forward.

You're just going to have to be patient and accept that our window for contending is still at least a couple years out. Players don't usually reach their prime until around their mid 20s. Nobody on this team is that age*, and our best prospects are like 21, 20, and 19.

*Except Tate, lol

 

You know what? If you really, truly believe that there's a very high chance (like >75%) that Wemby will have a massively injury-shortened career, I can see it. I think Wemby is clearly the best prospect in this class in terms of overall talent--you can't really argue with 7'4", excellent athleticism, and having even decent basketball skills, let alone really good ones.

But there is a case to be made about the injury risk, no doubt. I personally think the risks are overblown due to the small sample size, but it could be true that guys that big just can't stay in the league.

I don't think any GM will actually take the risk of taking Scoot #1 though. If you take Wemby and he can't stay on the court, you can look your owner in the eye and say there's nothing you could've done about it, everyone agreed he was a generational talent, you had to take the risk. If you don't take him and he turns out to be the next LeBron-level superstar, your ass is fired.

 

I can dig it... Not saying he isn't gonna be great. BUT I don't see the transcendent career everyone projects .. He's too perimeter oriented for me .. I hope he's the truth if we draft him .. But I'd rather take the physical specimen in a PG's body for today's NBA.. His attack mode is that of a lunatic.. His shooting needs some work but he won't be asked to come in and score 25 from the get go.. His impact will be game management, Bball IQ, and finishing around the rim when he attacks ... That's what this team needs badly IMO..

 

You're never going to get any argument from me that Silas was an awful coach and his presence as HC hurt our win total this season. But we were still 22-60. A better coach doesn't even come close to making that up. We are at least two years away from contending (and probably more) and that's just how it is, unfortunately. On the plus side, any GM would envy our cap space and collection of young prospects. We're going to be really good when all these guys hit their primes together, if we don't blow it by trading them away too soon. Just gotta be patient.

 

I hate to break it to you - the Rockets are years away from competing for a ring. 5 years or more. It's a long road to relevance. Guys don't typically get their first ring until they are 27 or 28. That's 6-8 years away for these guys.

You don't cash in your chips too early. You got to know when to hold them, and right now, best move is to hold vs sell. Patience big grasshopper.

 

Fultz is a better pg than KPJ. So by that logic, we should trade KPJ for Fultz.

 

magic would laugh at that offer

 

Fultz is gonna be a Chauncey Billups-type late bloomer. Something went real wrong with his shot but he looks like he's getting back on track. I wouldn't be surprised to see him drop 20 a game next season.

 

For an 18 year old? From the NBA 3-point line? That’s really not bad. Especially when you consider that it isn’t his strength.

 

I don’t care who you trade for or bring in next year - you aren’t winning ****. No, the existing young talent on the Rockets isn’t good enough or they would win more than 20 games.

Henderson and probably Miller are better than anyone they could get for the #2-3 pick in the draft. The Rockets want to compete for a title in a few years, not win 40 games a year like the Bulls.

Stop the absurd bullshit.

 

Precisely this.

 

I'm not throwing away our top pick. I'm ok trading away the clippers pick and the nets picks.

DD, your logic is solid, you have a 50/50 crapshoot if any of these top picks turn into a star. so build around jalen/jabari and use the pick to acquire a more sure thing. my counter is that Jalen and Jabari also have 50/50 chances of turning into stars. cashing in assets to build around them is premature since they might not turn into stars and then we'd end up in mediocrity with no other way to improve our team.

add another top pick, another chance at a 50/50 star. 1 or 2 will pan out. that would be enough to compete. and then we'd still have a lot of picks, young players, and cap space to improve the team further.