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Wemby or bust, trade the picks if we don't get Wemby.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Apr 12, 2023.

  1. OremLK

    OremLK Member

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    By the way, comparing an undrafted free agent who had a few years as a marginal starter to a guy reputed to be so good he would be #1 in most draft classes is a very... DD take.

    Since he mentioned Ish Smith's time at Wake Forest: No, if you put Scoot in a time machine and sent him back to 2010, they would not even be in the same stratosphere as prospects. Scoot would have been picked #1 or #2 in that draft and would have been neck-and-neck with John Wall. Ish Smith would have been... gasp... undrafted. Surprising, I know.
     
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  2. Aruba77

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    We don’t even know if we have a future franchise star on the roster and we don’t have our picks the next few years. We’ve got to continue to take swings. There’s a real possibility there’s a few stars available through the top 5 besides Wemby. Getting a top draft pick doesn’t happen every day, and we can’t afford to bypass the opportunity to catch lightning in a bottle. Keep the pick; trade the Clippers pick.
     
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  3. SamFisher

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    If it's about the shooting, like i said there's plenty of 18 year olds who hovered around 30 % (again, at the shorter line!) who are much better comparables than Ish Smith, who were drafted highly like Henderson. These include many elite lead guards.

    Hell even Ish Smith himself, who, like i said, shot 22% from the amateur line is a .323 career shooter in the NBA !

    If Scoot Henderson is an Ish Smith % shooter in the NBA, that's all star level.
     
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  4. kjayp

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    duuuuuuuuuuuude.......
    i'm king of the 'i'll take the established talent vs the gamble of some unproven rook' mindset...
    but thats jus cray cray imo.. lol
    i mean thats jus beyond...
    we all know how much u love kpj (and bless yer heart for stickin to yer guns)... but u gotta see how thats simply not logical...
    i mean do u honestly think there's a single exec in the league that would want kpj over henderson? a single one?
    and THEORETICALLY, if EVERY exec who gets paid the big buck would go henderson... would that cause u to maybe re-think your position?

    lol
     
  5. Le$$

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    These top 4 picks are supposed to be the next best generational draft. This team is just really to young. Jabari, Segun and Green are keepers.

    What kind of free agent can you get for 20th pick and kpj .

    Thing is does J brown going to be your franchise player?

    Is Harden really the answer everyone keeps saying?

    Is this next draft the biggest draft like the last draft 20 years ago?

    Does this team still need 3-4 years to compete and honestly there all under 22 and still need development?

    Look at the numbers Jabari, Green and Segun are awesome. You don't trade them , numbers don't lie.

    I still feel you deal with losing but you bring in coach that can bring in a solution to winning. They should have 30 wins next season if there right there.

    Few vets that play defense Bruce Bowen, Plumlee, Dillon Brooks Max strus would be a nice mix.

    Out : Kj Martin, boban, Tate, Garuba, Washington, nix , kpj ,
     
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  6. YOLO

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    Which isn’t good lol
     
  7. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    If we all know Nix isn't it, what do his GL stats matter at all?
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It is a comparison to how crap the Gleague is, and if Scoot is so great why didn’t he dominate like Nix at the same age?

    DD
     
  9. peleincubus

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    Yeah why trade a player that had higher turnovers per game than last season, while having lower assists per game going down each of the last 3 seasons 6.3 to 6.2 to 5.7 the lowest he has had since he became a starter?

    Scoot would probably be able to muster that one day a whole 5.7 assists eventually maybe in a decade or so.

    lol
     
  10. SamCassell

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    Gosh the KPJ fans will do anything to save their guy. Henderson is a generational prospect and KPJ has risen to mediocrity. Dumping the high value prospect to keep the backup SG who plays point is incredibly shortsighted. The whole point of the rebuild was to draft great players and then surround them with good vets.
     
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  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yeah, I figured that agenda folks would try to devolve this conversation into KPJ - while he is a factor - this is not what the overall theme is about.

    It is about not drafting more 19 year old maybes and getting veteran players to help the guys that are here as our core.

    Carry on.

    DD
     
  12. thekad

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    Imagine a 20 win team trading Scoot Henderson for Mikal Bridges lmao. This guy’s takes keep getting dumber.
     
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  13. heypartner

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    fwiw: Scoot shot 32.4% from 3 for the entire year. @SamFisher

    Your stats don’t include all the g-league games played — their 50-game season is split up into an 18-game Showcase and 30-game Regular Season.. Scoot was lights-out in November before his nasal fracture.

    https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630703/?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Combined
     
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  14. SamFisher

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    It's good enough if you're Scoot, Russ, Ja etc.
     
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    Also 75FT%. Meanwhile Rose shot ~71% in college.

    And Ish Smith…shot below 50% in college. In other words, OP is truly idiotic.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    The most statistically dominant player in college is Zach Edey, the Purdue Powerhouse, yet many statistically inferior players are likely to hear their names called prior - using the transitive property of Daishen Nix stats to knock out every g leaguer into the future seems not great
     
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  17. kjayp

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    and i'm sure most of us agree with that premise - i certainly do... time to trade 4 quarters for a dollar... bring in some vets to help develop these kids (shoulda been happening before now imo...)

    i think most of us agreed that if we dont land one of top 2 or 3 picks - then package it up...

    but obviously we just hold Scoot Henderson in a higher regard...

    and dont think kpj is the guy... at least not to level u do...
     
  18. KingSamJack

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    I would risk it right now trade the chance someone will bite right now
     
  19. YOLO

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    Not really. Russ is self explanatory how much he sucks and how much a team suffers bc of him. And ja well scoot is no where near ja’s level. Both common sense
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Uh ok, so Ish Smith it is. :rolleyes:

    Like, there's a reason why Scoot Henderson's NBA comparables are MVPs and all-NBA players like Russ, Ja Morant, Derrick Rose etc. That reason is not just me making it up, and its kind of goofy to try to use late career Russ as your trump card

    Doesn't mean he'll reach those heights, but it certainly torpedoes your theory that shooting in the low 30s is an immediate deal breaker given all of his other attributes
     

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