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Wemby or bust, trade the picks if we don't get Wemby.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Apr 12, 2023.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Outside of Wemby, I don't want any more draft picks, we have 7 FRPs in the last 2 years already, we don't need 2 more youngsters that can't play or need 2 years to learn to play in the NBA.

    Wemby - sure, everyone else - no - trade the picks get us some vets.

    Use that number 2,3 or 4 pick to go get Mikael Bridges, use that 20 pick and others to get a solid NBA player- sign Cam Johnson and someone else.

    We don't need any more 19 year old - MAYBE AN NBA PLAYER SOMEDAY players.......

    We have built through the draft now let's use that capital to get some quality veterans to add to our core.

    So many people get excited by the draft and most of those guys never get close to their ceilings - let's find some 25-28 year old NBA players to invest in to add to Green, Jabari, Sengun....etc.

    DD
     
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    I agree although would probably draft Miller or Henderson as well.

    I think we have four players on the roster currently who can be “Robin(s)” and potentially Batman. Green/Smith/Sengun/Porter.

    We need to see what happens when with coaching and a couple vets for sure.
     
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    This 100 times this, we don't need to draft kids that are 2 years away - we have enough developing players we need to accelerate by trading some that we don't really need....KMJ, Garuba, Christopher, and picks for REAL NBA talent that fits....

    If you build ONLY through the draft you are always building through the draft.....we have enough from the draft, outside of Wemby - we don't need anyone else IMHO.

    DD
     
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    Nikola Vucevic time !
     
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    I agree with you except that I'm more inclined believe the draft-industrial complex guys when they say Scoot H has the tools to be an all-NBA level lead guard.

    It's not a guarantee that theyre right of course but the fact that they have him as highly rated as they do is s data point that separates him from, say Ish Smith.

    The rest of the top prospects, the Miller, Thompsons etc, you're right those guys are just too far from being finished product to have a real impact.

    Scoot and Victor obviously not finished product either but their positional impact would be much greater than Miller or a Thompson.
     
  6. snowconeman22

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    Maybe we can trade one of our recent draftees instead of our pick this year .

    problem is that nost of our draftees haven’t gained value .

    could we get more for green or Jabari or the number 3 pick this year ? I’d prolly pick Jabari , then #3 , then green .. but it’s close .
     
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  7. DaDakota

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    https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/nba-best-young-players-lamelo-ball-anthony-edwards

    We have enough youth.

    That is entirely the point we have not enough playing time for the 7 we have - now we add 2 more and let their value drop?

    This is bad asset management.

    DD
     
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    Wemby or Sterling Henderson.
     
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  9. DaDakota

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    I don't agree on Scoot, but do on Wemby, but I want NBA ready players in their mid 20s that can accelerate the growth, I don't want to be that Sacramento team that is always talking about the next shiny object in the stream - and then it never happens.

    DD
     
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    I’d definitely take Scoot at 2. He’d go 1 in a lot of drafts. Outside that, I can be convinced, but the return has to be really good.
     
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    I would say draft Wemby and Scoot for sure. Roll the dice with Miller if Harden agrees to come. Other that trade the pick and future picks for some established talent.
     
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    Henderson is going to be awesome, so I strongly disagree with this take.

    Henderson is one of the best guard prospects in the last 20 years, would probably be our best young player right out of the gates (and I say that as someone who is insanely high on Sengun).

    After pick 2 though, yeah, I definitely would not mind trading back or out of the pick.

    Honestly, you just don't want Henderson because you're a KPJ-stan and see Henderson as a threat to your boy -- let's be honest here.
     
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    If Scoot was with 100% certainty an elite lead guard, say, Baron Davis level for the sake of argument, I think he can move teh needle within a year or 2 - actually Baron Davis himself was an all star by year 3/age 22 so it's not exactly unprecedented. If that were the case you'd be crazy not to take him - you have a car with no real offensive engine right now and he projects to be an engine.

    All of the other guys in the draft up at the top other than Wemby are role-playing wings, at least for now, those guys aren't going to make a difference for the Rockets unless they can hit volume 3's.
     
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    https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630703/

    42.9% FG
    27.5% 3pt
    6.8 Assists
    3.5 Turnovers

    I don't get why folks think he is going to be great. Here are Nix stats from the Gleague in his 2nd year.

    https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1630227/traditional/

    47.9 FG
    40.6 3pt
    7.8 assists
    3.0 turnovers

    And Nix as we all know isn't it.......why do people believe that Henderson is going to be good? All the evidence doesn't support it at all? Seems like a case of crowd think to me.

    DD
     
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    I think Baron was a better prospect than Scoot Henderson. I just don't get the love for him, other than he is clearly built like a Mack Truck, his numbers look wack....and I watched about 8+ of his games and came away with...."I don't get it".....

    DD
     
  16. SamFisher

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    It's not just a stat-based argument for Henderson, it's a measurables/eye test argument though. .

    Brandon miller, by contrast, got a lot play when people saw him hitting 3's during conference play, then got downgraded a bit by the Big Board Crew and their melodramatics when he couldn't hit a damned basket during the NCAA tourney.
     
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    Because it isn't just about stats. When you watch him play, his basketball IQ, his ability to use pace, to see passes, just his overall point guard floor general skill set jumps off the page. He looks more like a young CP3 in that regard than anyone I've seen come into the league since then. But then you add to that athleticism and burst on par with Westbrook or Rose. It is exceptional.

    He just jumps off the screen when you watch his games.
     
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    Baron Davis shot 32% from NCAA 3 point range in college. Derrick Rose shot 33%.

    That probably projects to something very close to 28% at the more difficult GLeague 3 point range, or is pretty darned close even if it doesn't.
     
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    I mean, if you can get Mikal Bridges with #2 or #3 alone, okay, sure. But if we have to send 4 or 5 picks in addition to the #2, 3, 4 etc for him then I'm not game for including this years top pick. I'd trade 4-5 future picks/swaps for him but we suffered WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much to give away that asset plus many more for one guy.

    I'd also add that having picks is how we bolster our bench and/or trade for players we need. Also, I really like Scoot.
     
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    When 4x NBA All star Donovan Mitchell was Scoot Henderson's age, he was shooting 25% from 3.... at Louisville.
     

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