I don't get the hype on this guy. The Celtics were already a good team before him and have remained a good team without him. I'd rather someone a little more proven.
I don't see it with Udoka either as a coach or as a person. Not the guy I want representing the organization, and I don't think he proved he can develop a young team like some of the other guys. If he wasn't a crappy person and we were already ready to contend he would be fine, but neither of those things is true. If we must pick one of the names floated in rumors, I think my vote is for Atkinson.
Him having an affair with another man's wife doesn't necessarily make him a crappy person. The wife on the other hand... definitely should have divorced the husband before starting new entanglements.
I would say it does if he knew she was married. The bigger issue for me is the rumors of sexual harassment and possible consent issues involved in the whole affair. Too much sketch involved in the whole thing for me. Plenty of other coaching options who don't have these kinds of issues swirling around them. I will always lean toward morals/ethics over winning basketball games anyway, not that I think that's even an issue here since I don't even think Udoka is the best candidate (or probably the second best candidate either).
I'm good with Ime [ just lock up the women from talking to him, or vice-versa] Brad Stevens would get them to the playoffs but could never punch through. Ime had that so-so Boston team run by Schroder and 1) saw the NBA being all players on the court share the ball 2) traded the ball dominate Schroder who thought he was the main event while with the Lakers and then Boston. 3) moved Marcus Smart to the 1-spot. Prior to the trade the Celtics had infighting and Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown were on the trading block (as usual). After the trade the Celtics had the right formula to go to the finals. PG) Marcus Smart SG) Derrick White SF) Jaylen Brown PF) Tatum C) Robert Williams / Al Horford (in 5-men out all can shoot 3's schemes) Similar to the Rockets: everyone shares the ball. Harden/Green/KPj/Jabari/Sengun If KPj holds the ball too long and is not sharing the ball enough....thy sit-ith If Sengun doesn't shoot 3's better.....thy sit-ith Harden/Green/Tari/Jabari/......Garuba (in that Robert Williams role.....both 6'8") [ Let's see who we draft as well ]
You are aware that Brad Stevens - the guy you said couldn't punch through is the guy who became the Celtics GM who made the moves that allowed them to punch through right? Not Ime. Stevens is a good coach and so far has been a serviceable GM. Ime has exactly one year of head coaching experience on his resume taking over for a well coached team with an MVP candidate, a perennial all star, AND a defensive player of the year in place and was fired in that ONE YEAR for what sounds like being inappropriate with females at work at best and criminally liable at worst. Sure he saw success in that one year, but it's not like Boston fell off when he left- they fell one game short of being the best record in the NBA this year being coached by Ime's assistant. Stop star chasing. We don't have enough information to tell whether he is actually a good coach - and he managed to get himself fired before we could - if that isn't a warning sign, I don't know what is. Can he coach a team with several already elite players in place? It seems like the answer is yes...but does that mean he is going to take a roster full of non elite players and turn them into playoff contenders? There is literally no evidence of that and trying to give him credit for Brad Steven's role in the org is just a false narrative.
I'd be thrilled with any of the big 4. nurse, Atkinson, ime, vogel. we should also brace that it might not be one of those 4.
Yes I do......you think if it's all Brad Stevens...and what.....Ime is incapable of learning a thing or two from what transpired? If that's the case people need to quit making such a fuss over Popovich protege's......Ime being one of them!! https://www.google.com/imgres?imgur...id=b9FikC5FKFoKXM&w=1024&h=576&source=sh/x/im
One year - your basing a lot on one year of head coaching(again, that he got fired from) and being a guy from the Pop's coaching tree. I do believe Pops is a hell of a coach and half the league has coaches with organizational ties to him so it's obviously not insignificant that he came from the Pops coaching tree but then again there are many options available if we wanted to tap into the former Spurs assistant tree for our next head coaching role. I just don't think anything Udoka showed he could do in Boston would be applicable here and bringing a guy who can't seem to keep it in his pants to an organization of young impressionable athletes is just not a good look. Hell I would rather Becky Hammon over him and that would surely make all the old Texas sports bubbas here faint.
Ime and Vogel will provide disclipine and DEFENSE. Atkinson will provide a offense like the Kings and Warriors and Nurse bring the Champions Pedigree. I do not think we will get Nurse because he will be expensive. Ime would be perfect but there are too many SELF RIGHTEOUS people that would scare management to hire him. I think it will be Vogel! He is popular, won a championship with Lebrun and he will bring veterans to the team and preach Defense!
Yes one year. Brad Stevens was a day late and a dollar short of making these moves or convincing Danny Ainge of making these moves. Would you like me to link endless articles of the Celtics for years prior with rumors of shopping Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown before trade deadlines? Ime was the coach on the sidelines trying to make the move of Marcus Smart to Point Guard and Derrick White at SG. Record was lame prior to trade deadline......excllent after trade deadline. Let me guess, you are one of these conspiracy people that thank Brad Stevens would leave his busy GM office to coach the team during practices.......ear piece in Ime's ear telling him how to coach. Taking it to the eventually champs (Warriors) before they ran out of gas, because the Warriors had one more horse than they had? Nurse did it one year with Kawhi Leonard and gimmick zone defenses. One year, one year only......hasn't done it since without Kawhi.
Yes one year. Brad Stevens was a day late and a dollar short of making these moves or convincing Danny Ainge of making these moves. Would you like me to link endless articles of the Celtics for years prior with rumors of shopping Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown before trade deadlines? Ime was the coach on the sidelines trying to make the move of Marcus Smart to Point Guard and Derrick White at SG. Record was lame prior to trade deadline...... excellent after trade deadline (no thanks to Theis). Let me guess, you are one of these conspiracy people that think Brad Stevens would leave his busy GM office to coach the team during practices.......ear piece in Ime's ear telling him how to coach during games? Taking it to the eventual champs (Warriors) before they ran out of gas, because the Warriors had one more horse than they had? Nurse did it one year with Kawhi Leonard and gimmick zone defenses. One year, one year only......hasn't done it since without Kawhi. Needed Durant and Klay Thompson to go down injured that year.
