Jaylen Brown is definitely a good player, but isn't he about average size to a touch small to be a SF? I know he has some length, but a small PG (say Tyty), Green and Brown seems like a small backcourt that would be at a disadvantage defensively?
When these star players make trade demands, the current team seem to have lost all leverage. Look what the Rockets got for Harden - a poo platter of matching contracts and draft picks. IF Brown were making similar demands to the Celtics, I'd expect a deal to look very similar - matching salary, probably in the form of KPJ and some / all of the Nets draft picks. GM's just haven't been giving up good young talent in these deals in recent history and I don't expect that to change, particularly when a player is making the demands of a move. Utah & Minny for Gobert poo platter and draft picks (Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Leandro Bolmaro, Walker Kessler, Jarred Vanderbilt) Utah & Cleveland for Mitchell poo platter and draft picks (Markkanen) San Antonio & Atlanta for Murray a poo platter and draft picks (Danilo Gallinari) The lone recent example of a team sending out a good player is the Suns / Nets trade but in that case, sending out Bridges $20m was the only way to make the salary match without sending out one of Booker, Ayton or CP3 and none of them were ever on the table. I suppose you could point to the PG13 trade where OKC got SGA and draft assets, but that trade was about bringing in Kawhi Leonard in conjunction with Paul George & OKC had some leverage there to extract better assets because without one the Clippers weren't getting the other. IF I'm able to retain Green, Jabari & Tari in a deal to pick up Brown for those Nets draft assets I probably do it.... I think the bigger question is who would Brown be bringing along with him in the FA (or another trade) because these players do understand how the cap works and what teams can help them team up - see the Clippers as a prime example of that above. Hell the Nets were terrible before KD, Kyrie & Harden wanted to team up .... they had the cap space & assets to get the three together - even if it didn't work out, that was those 3 players coming together and getting a franchise to accommodate their desires to play together. The Rockets might be the only team set up for a similar transformation right now.
Houston is literally the most diverse city in America and maybe the most minority friendly to boot. Dallas & Austin aren't far behind.
Well I live in the most diverse city in the world and I’m sorry to tell you but it’s not necessarily a cure for racism. I don’t know if it’s actually true about Houston but it is the perception. if Brown has a problem with racist fans I think it's more likely he'll go to a place with richer African American culture like Atlanta maybe.
Boston is up there with Utah when it comes to racist fans Houston is nowhere close and doesn’t have that sort of reputation among NBA players
It's a very outside chance that Brown gets traded here but the Rockets should do their due diligence. I would trade a Green for a Brown, but wouldn't go all in with multiple top prospects and most of the picks.
I think we'd have a good chance at Brown, but a few things would have to happen first. On the plus side: - He'd be a #1 here/could lead and have more influence - Houston is diverse as hell and after Atlanta (where he's from) I'd guess we'd be near the top of the list for best locations for him - We have the assets to make some win-now moves: sign Harden, package either Sengun or Green + other young guys and/or pick(s) for another star - We could hire Udoka, who he was apparently close to - Should still have guys like Jabari, Tari and some youth leftover to develop (and could fit a winning team). What needs to happen first: - Some culture change via new coach / dropping negative locker room players - A trade to move towards a more immediate future (trade for disgruntled star?) + signing Harden? The question is, if he is interested, do we try to trade for him (if he agrees to extension) or do we wait for 2024 FA? Shoot, I'd love to have a Harden/Green/Jaylen/Jabari/Capela(?) type lineup (plus Eason etc off the bench). There's spacing, defense, on-ball and off-ball threats and versatility.
If your smart you trade Celtics Green, plus picks. Trade Jabari, kpj picks for Trae Young. Surround Segun with Brown(25) and Trae Young(24). Time for real 1-2 punch. Segun next year going to be a beast. If this team trades Segun it will be the biggest mistake org has done. Scorers like Green are dime a dozen in the draft. Players like Jabari are dime dozen. Green is worth the risk to trade for brown , I just see another Lavine and Brown better player by far. Be smart and keep Segun. Segun will be like trading the next Jokic to celtics, not worth it. Brown about to go into entering his early prime as well as Trae .
Houston isn’t viewed as a racist town at all around the NBA and minorities in general don’t view it that way. Houston along with NYC are the two most diverse cities in the USA. Houston has had one white male mayor in the last 30 years. Every other mayor has been a minority. There are areas of Texas with racism, but that’s the case just about every where. Hell, Houston is far less racist than Chicago, where I live. There is systemic racism in Chicago. Then again, I have seen far less racism in the USA than I have in just about any other nation. In China, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Poland I saw terrible racism. Australia, Finland and Japan were bad too. Also, there is plenty of racial issues in Atlanta. There are plenty of wealthy black people in Houston and it isn’t segregated like Chicago. It doesn’t matter because there is no real reason for Brown to come to Houston.
I read somewhere Jaylen had a NASA internship and that he was legit academics smart, I wouldn't say, he is the smartest on the court having played with Marcus Smart who isn't the smartest. Too smart for his own good.
Danny Ainge said Brown is one of the smartest people he has been around in basketball- so I wouldn’t doubt it. If he wants to go anywhere, I would expect it to be in California.
You all are dreaming if you think Brown would even consider us. Waste of a thread….please shut it down Clutch.
Sure, but what I meant real life smarts do only translate fully to on court smarty pants. I think he just broke out a little this year and while he isn't totally overrated, he was mostly a 24-25 ppg scorer before that, a solid secondary option without playmaking that is. He is 27 years old and has the chops to average close to 30 ppg.
