I'm not even sure if this is serious or not...Lol. But it's not that he has a "Mulgheta or a crazy uncle" it's that he doesn't have real representation behind him. The fact that nobody (that we know of) told Deshaun to man up and stay in Houston is a problem to me. As a matter of fact, his "representation" was out there bad-mouthing the team and fans just like any other trolls on twitter... I don't want my franchise guy getting opinions from people like that. Had he just held out for more money, cool, players do it all the time, but to force his way out NBA style, no thanks.
I’m pretty split on Stroud/Young. Would be happy with either. That ball placement and processing is Joe Burrow esque from Stroud. Put a good team around him and he can win a lot of games for you.
I don't think that would be necessary considering his experience being in college forever. He's a day 1 starter imo.
• […] It was interesting hearing Stroud and Jaxon Smith-Njigba talk about the Texans. They seemed excited about the prospect of joining the Texans but admitted they had only had a few talks with the Texans. Perhaps they’ll get to know them better at their top-30 visits. What seems to be the most likely scenario? Kubena: There is a growing sense of parity about both quarterbacks and their proficiency as passers. They both finished their college careers with strong completion percentages, and Stroud (69.3 percent) and Young (65.8 percent) both showcased skillful footwork and timing both in the pocket and on the run in their pro days. If the Panthers feel confident about both players and still hold the No. 1 overall pick when the NFL draft begins, it’d be reasonable for them to choose the quarterback with the prototype build who doesn’t raise questions about his durability. The Panthers’ new staff is stocked with former quarterbacks and former quarterback-oriented head coaches. Coach Frank Reich worked with Andrew Luck (6-4, 240 pound) as head coach with the Colts and knows from Luck’s sudden retirement about the consequences of injuries. Caldwell coached Peyton Manning (6-5, 230) and Matthew Stafford (6-3, 220) as head coach of the Colts and Lions. Reich (6-4, 210) and McCown (6-4, 218) both reaped the benefits of gifted frames as former NFL quarterbacks themselves. Panthers general manager Scott Fitterer was the director of college scouting for the Seahawks when they spent a third-round pick on Russell Wilson (5-11, 215) in the 2012 draft. Will they identify enough qualities within Young to make up the difference? Alexander: Right now, most people around the league think the Panthers will pick Stroud. Based on people I’ve talked to, I don’t think the Panthers have decided just yet. They are legitimately going through the process and trying to figure it out, and Young is someone they think highly of. But Stroud seems to fit Reich’s history in his search for quarterbacks. Each of the quarterbacks Reich has worked with in the past as a head coach or offensive coordinator were all taller quarterbacks. Carson Wentz (6-5), Nick Foles (6-6), Andrew Luck (6-4), Jacoby Brissett (6-4), Phillip Rivers (6-5), Matt Ryan (6-4), were all 6-4 or taller. Stroud is 6-3. Young is 5-10. Reich tried to downplay it in a press conference recently, but I think there’s some legitimacy there. Stroud and Young are not that far off, talent-wise. As of now, it seems Stroud is going to Carolina. That would leave Young with the Texans. Young is so far advanced as a quarterback coming out of college. He can throw with anticipation. He’s a playmaker. He can do things many other can’t do. He’s just 5-10. Strengths and weaknesses? Kubena: Young maintains excellent footwork and timing in all snap placements and dropback positionings, a sign that offers promise Young can throw comfortably within various pro style schemes. He didn’t take many snaps under center while playing at Alabama under offensive coordinator and former Texans head coach Bill O’Brien, but Young mixed several under-center snaps into a prepared script of 50 throws. It’s a necessary skill. The Texans hired former 49ers passing game coordinator Bobby Slowik as their offensive coordinator, and 39 percent of San Francisco’s offensive plays last season originated from under center, which ranked ninth-most in the NFL according to The 33rd Team. The majority of Young’s passes were within 15 yards. He was 30-of-31 on such passes with one dropped pass on a running back swing pass. Young has proficient precision on short-yardage throws, and he was also 11-of-11 passing on throws of 20 yards. Young maintains accuracy at that range whether he’s zipping or lobbing passes — a necessary arsenal for mid-range routes in which quarterbacks need to either gun a throw between defenders or arc another over defenders to receivers along the sideline. Young’s deep throws are not effortless. His form noticeably changes in summoning the strength to throw 45 yards or more downfield. He completed 1-of-6 such attempts on Thursday. Two were dropped. Two were overthrown. One got caught in the net hanging from the ceiling. The throwing session did little to quell any questions stemming from his struggles to throw deep at Alabama. Young was 18-of-45 passing on throws of 20-plus yards in 2022, according to SECStatCat.com, a significant dip in accuracy from Mac Jones’ completion percentage on such passes (29-of-50) in 2020. Alexander: First, I don’t want to put too much stock into what Stroud did at his pro day. Pro days are designed for players to look their best. There’s no pressure facing the quarterback, and the pads aren’t on. Malik Willis and Zach Wilson looked great at their pro days and we see how they’ve played. Having said that, Stroud looked great. He’s every bit as accurate as advertised. His passes were on the money. He can throw on the run. Stroud did have a few overthrows and an underthrow. But again, you try not to take too much from a pro day. What really matters is what we saw on film in the college football playoff game against Georgia, which had the best defense in the nation. There, he showcased his athleticism. He escaped tacklers and still made throws downfield. There’s no question Stroud has played with some of the best receivers in the country during his two years: Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Marvin Harrison Jr. His receivers are almost always open. He also had a great offensive line. So the question is, can he do that in an NFL, when the talent surrounding him might not be as elite, where he’ll have to carry the team. That’s a big if. But if you surround him with players, he can obviously be special. If he’s the Texans’ guy, they need to continue to build around him.
Fit with Texans? Kubena: Even if Bryce Young does not improve as a deep passer, his proficiency on short-to-midrange throws makes him a strong fit for the West Coast scheme Slowik is expected to run. Indeed, the original West Coast offense invented by Hall of Fame 49ers coach Bill Walsh was founded on a philosophy that short, crossing patterns will stretch out defenses and create vulnerabilities for other methods of attack. Such a system requires a quarterback with masterful timing and considerable short-to-midrange accuracy. Drew Brees, who, like Young, was also disparaged for his small frame, thrived in Sean Payton’s West Coast offense with the Saints. Brees, a 13-time Pro Bowler and Super Bowl XLIV MVP who retired at age 41, still managed to lead the NFL in completion percentage in three of his four final seasons. It’s possible Slowik won’t require Young to attempt all that many passes of 20-plus yards. Only 9.1 percent of Jimmy Garoppolo’s passes last season were attempts of 20-plus yards, which ranked 31st out of 36 quarterbacks who qualified for the statistic. A proven running back duo of Dameon Pierce and Devin Singletary can demand considerable attention in the box, and if the Texans pick another premier pass-catcher early in the draft to join Robert Woods, John Metchie III, Nico Collins and newly signed tight end Dalton Schultz, Young can have plenty of short-to-midrange targets to choose from. Alexander: Kyle Shanahan’s offense in San Francisco with Slowik as the passing game coordinator focused on establishing the run, and a lot of play action pass to catch defenses off guard. The quarterback is going to have to be accurate with the football and will have to take whatever the defense gives them. Stroud is considered the most accurate quarterback in this draft. So that shouldn’t be a problem in Slowik’s offense in Houston. However, here’s the issue the Texans are having to consider: Outside of Dameon Pierce, they don’t have the best skill position players. Their offensive line is better than it was last year, with the addition of Shaq Mason, but center and left guard are still concerns. So the quarterback is going to have to do more with less than what the 49ers had. The 49ers had the best skill position players in the league. The Texans are going to need the most pro-ready quarterback. While I believe C.J. Stroud is pro-ready, I think Bryce Young is a little more advanced. He’s great with anticipation. He throws his receivers open. He makes things happen out of nothing. One NFL offensive coordinator described it like this: “C.J. offers the most physically. Bryce can complete passes when plays break down. Bryce Young is a problem-solver.” The Texans may need a quarterback who can get them out of holes and solve their problems next season. But asking a player that may not be as ready to win you games before you’re ready can hurt a quarterback’s development long term. How concerned are you with Bryce Young’s size? Kubena: All kinds of quarterbacks get injured. Small ones. Big ones. The Texans can look into their own history. Matt Schaub (6-6, 245) missed five games each in his first two seasons in Houston with various injuries, then suffered a season-ending Lisfranc injury in 2011. Backup Matt Leinart (6-5, 225) suffered a broken collarbone in the game immediately afterward. DeMeco Ryans has his own memories from his final season last year as defensive coordinator with the 49ers. Trey Lance (6-4, 224) suffered a season-ending ankle injury, backup Jimmy Garoppolo (6-2, 225) was later knocked out with a broken foot, then third-string quarterback Brock Purdy (6-1, 220) tore his elbow in the NFC championship game against the Eagles. I find myself agreeing with Alabama coach Nick Saban, who said Thursday at Bryce Young’s workout, “I don’t think it’s an issue.” Alexander: I am concerned enough that if it was between C.J. Stroud and Bryce Young, I’d take Stroud No. 1. I’m not concerned enough that I’d pass on Young all together if I’m the Texans and he’s there at No. 2. He’s just too talented. But if the Texans do end up taking him, it’s going to be paramount that they make sure they have one of the better offensive lines in the league. His size is a concern, absolutely. He’s 5-10, 204 pounds. He’ll be the smallest quarterback drafted in the top 10 since Kyler Murray. And Murray is a bigger guy. Can he take hits, again and again and still make a play next trip down. Or will that bother him? Can he be durable if the Texans don’t protect him. I don’t know. I think that’s the biggest question. But you still must take him if he’s on the board. He’s still too good.
But as a Texans fan you know very well that this team is never on the good side of history. Why even take that chance? Why Houston? Why now? Let some other city find that out.
I would only deal with Mulagheta for a generational QB prospect, because middling prospects like Murray/Watson etc.. get paid top dollar or ask to be traded. This destroys your cap and prevents you from being able to win championships. With this said, DM is just doing his job and his job is to get his clients paid, not to help his clients teams win championships.
It’s not just height. There has never been a >6’/>200 QB taken in the first round. If not mistaken, there hasn’t been a >200 first round QB since Jim McMahon - and he was hurt all the time (granted, playing a much less-friendly time for QBs). Kyler outweighs BY by ~15 pounds. And you can’t just add weight to BY - one of his selling points is speed and elusiveness. Weight gain might affect that. There’s never been a prospect like Bryce Young. Unfortunately, the only way we’re going to be anle to find out if his body can handle it is to draft him. But if he can’t…
