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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

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    Biden already told the eastern european leaders last month that crimea is off the table. Biden also told the leaders that the end game is not for the elimination of Putins regime.
     
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    Watching the RealLifeLore videos in the past has ended up with this guy in my YT feed. One of his points around the six minute mark is that replacing American weapon systems and munitions sent to Ukraine a lot of times means money going back to American businesses and communities as those items are built here.

     
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    I had a 410 side-by-side on my wall in high school.

     
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    If Putin is removed, the war is over. We can't have that now, can we? Biden MVP
     
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    If you think the war will be over with if putin dies then you're honestly dumber than I thought you were. Seriously
     
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    yes, we can that would be awesome....

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    Maybe put up some African art and have a black couple pose as the owners for an appraisal.
     
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    encouraging to see all the major republican candidate's against funding ukraine
     
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    Agreed.

    Dropping the ball on such easy question hurts all of their presidential runs.
     
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    Not necessarily, but I’d take my chances regardless. Still it’s important that the US shows the world that they aren’t regime changers like the narrative of the anti US Tulsi Gabbard types make the US out to be. A narrative that certainly is a primary driver on Russia and Chinese propaganda outlets.

    The US has a lot of reputational damage coming out of the Bush Iraq war. Biden knows this and so he’s trying to make it clear we don’t play that game anymore. It’s as simple as that at least from a narrative standpoint even if behind closed doors I’m sure there are NATO and Five Eyes discussions and possibly secret operations to influence changes in leadership in many countries.

    The fact is though, if Putin is assassinated under most circumstances the powerful person or people pulling the trigger were at least publicly arguing that Putin should go harder at Ukraine. What they say in private is something we should all hope is different. The best scenario for Russia stability and a shift in aggression in the future is for Putin to use the lever of an elections as a mechanism for staying alive. Aka announce he’s retiring after the year, and truly allow for an election to happen where people actually get to vote. That’s unlikely to happen but it’s certainly the best we could hope for.
     
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    good segment, thanks for posting.
     
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    "unlikely" is doing a lot of work here. a better choice would have been "delusional."
     
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    harrowing footage
     
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