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2023 NFL Draft Thread

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  1. Sooty

    Sooty Member

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    Vegas odds right now for first pick

    CJ Stroud -320
    Bryce Young +300
    Anthony Richardson +350
    Will Levis +2200
    Jalen Carter +9500
    Will Anderson +9500
     
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  2. MadMax

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    Warmly welcome your new QB, Bryce Young
     
  3. J.R.

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    https://theathletic.com/4297256/2023/03/10/panthers-nfl-draft-first-overall-pick/

    The Panthers will spend the next seven weeks evaluating the “big four” quarterbacks — Alabama’s Bryce Young, Ohio State’s C.J. Stroud, Kentucky’s Will Levis and Florida’s Anthony Richardson. But The Athletic has reported the Panthers like Richardson’s raw talent, but not enough to draft him high.

    That leaves Young, Stroud and Levis.

    While Fitterer, Tepper, Frank Reich and the team’s other decision-makers met with free-agent quarterback Derek Carr in Indianapolis, they also had discussions about trading up with several teams during the week. The Panthers were comfortable getting to either No. 1 or No. 2 on the draft board, according to a source with knowledge of the trade talks who was provided anonymity so he could speak freely.

    That suggests the Panthers feel good about two of the QBs in the group that includes Stroud, Young and Levis, whom Tepper liked after his strong 2021 season in Lexington.

    Many in league circles believe it will be Stroud. His accuracy — a critical component in Reich’s eyes — was on full display at the combine, two months after he wowed the football world with a transcendent performance against Georgia in the national semifinals.

    Young is a special player in his own right. He’s also short — 5 inches shorter than the 6-foot-3 Stroud. That could matter.

    As one personnel official for another team said, “Tepper doesn’t strike me as a non-traits guy.”

    Reaction to the trade was mixed, based on the texts I received as Friday evening turned into Friday night.

    Fans loved it. NFL people? Not as much.

    One veteran assistant coach thought the Panthers reached, saying “none of these guys are Josh Allen or Joe Burrow.”

    As for the Panthers, they now control the draft, a position the Bears had held since Lovie Smith and the Texans won in Week 18 to hand Chicago the first pick. A source said the Panthers would keep their options open as they attend pro days and bring in Stroud, Young, et al for private visits.

    And if they reach a point where they feel strongly about two quarterbacks and Houston wants to trade places, the Panthers would consider it, according to a source with knowledge of the team’s thinking.

    That actually would be a shrewd move by Fitterer, although he’d probably have a hell of a time convincing his owner to do it.
     
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  4. Qan

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    You don't have to worry about the titans this year...but you will next year with better QBs in the draft. Titans are going to tank for next draft.
     
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  5. J.R.

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    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...anthers-haul-includes-wr-dj-moore-sources-say

    According to the source, team officials have conviction on more than two of the top quarterbacks but haven't become focused on one as they're still early in the evaluation process ahead of the April 27-29 draft.

    They were high on Kentucky's Will Levis early last season and impressed with Levis, Alabama's Bryce Young and Ohio State's C.J. Stroud at the combine, league sources said. But should the Panthers fall in love with a couple of quarterbacks, they would consider trading back a spot or two, according to a league source.

    Among their possible choices at quarterback, Kentucky's Levis is rated by ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. as his top quarterback, but other analysts believe Alabama's Young will be the first quarterback selected.

    "The poise, the competitiveness, the ability to process and see the field,'' Panthers general manager Scott Fitterer said of Young at the combine. "The guy never seems stressed when he's in the pocket. And then you meet him in person and he's just, like, chill. He's a good guy. Nothing's too big for him.

    "I remember a couple of years ago at the Heisman Trophy presentation ... and he was so poised. I think he was [20] at the time, It's not an act. It's like who he is. It's ingrained in him.''
     
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  6. J.R.

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    1. Carolina Panthers (via Chicago): C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State

    The Panthers did it. It was expensive, but they made the move they had to make. Now, the question: Which quarterback did they trade up for?

    In my opinion, Alabama’s Bryce Young is still the best pure quarterback in this draft, but Frank Reich said it himself at the combine: Young’s size “is a concern.” Enough to pass on him? Maybe.

    Both Florida’s Anthony Richardson and Kentucky’s Will Levis have tantalizing traits, and there is plenty of smoke connecting Richardson to Carolina (beyond just the Cam Newton comparisons). If you’re going to trade the farm for the top pick, why not swing for the fences? Richardson has sky-high potential with his rare size/speed profile and promising passing traits. A possible Jacoby Brissett-Richardson pairing in the quarterback room makes sense.

    I’ve also heard, though, that Reich really likes Levis, based on his tools and the time the two spent together at the combine.

    But I keep coming back to Stroud, who I think is the new favorite to be the No. 1 pick. He is the quarterback that everyone in the room should be able to agree on because of one main factor: accuracy. His maturation at moving the pocket and creating second-chance plays might be what ultimately determines his ceiling, but Stroud has a very high floor in the NFL because of his natural throwing skills from the pocket.


    2. Houston Texans: Bryce Young, QB, Alabama

    Most expect this pick to be a quarterback, but there is plenty of chatter from other clubs who think Houston might go a different direction.

    Young would be a tough quarterback to pass on, even if he lacks the desired size. His point-guard instincts, vision and processing skills are the types of traits you bet on at QB.


    4. Baltimore Ravens (via Indianapolis)*: Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida

    (*Proposed transactions: Colts sign Lamar Jackson, Ravens acquire two first-round picks.)

    Let’s have some fun. The Colts are in the unenviable position of having everyone know they need to take a mighty swing at quarterback. And waiting to see which quarterback falls to them at No. 4 feels like the type of conservative move that might cost GM Chris Ballard his job.

    “Trading” for Lamar Jackson by signing him to an offer sheet that the Ravens don’t match would be an expensive proposition, obviously, but Jackson is a proven commodity who would be a ton of fun in Shane Steichen’s offense. He’d make the Colts immediate contenders for a deep playoff run.

    As for the Ravens, they’d swap a proven playmaking talent at quarterback for a potentially playmaking talent. But they’d also reset their quarterback clock and maintain financial flexibility to build up the rest of the roster, which is a priority for the organization. Tyler Huntley would be the Ravens’ new starting quarterback in 2023, with Richardson mixed in throughout his rookie season until he’s ready to take over.


    7. Las Vegas Raiders: Will Levis, QB, Kentucky

    Levis has the most uncertainty in terms of where he will land on draft weekend. He could be drafted top three or fall out of the top 10, and I don’t think either scenario would be shocking.

    There is no doubt that Josh McDaniels and the Raiders will be interested in Levis’ package of skills. Enough to draft him here? Time will tell.

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    1. Carolina Panthers (via Chicago): C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State
    2. Houston Texans: Bryce Young, QB, Alabama
    3. Arizona Cardinals: Will Anderson Jr., Edge, Alabama
    4. Baltimore Ravens (via Indianapolis)*: Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida | (*Proposed transactions: Colts sign Lamar Jackson, Ravens acquire two first-round picks.)
    5. Seattle Seahawks: Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia
    6. Detroit Lions: Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon
    7. Las Vegas Raiders: Will Levis, QB, Kentucky
    8. Atlanta Falcons: Tyree Wilson, Edge, Texas Tech
    9. Chicago Bears (via Carolina): Peter Skoronski, OT/G, Northwestern
    10. Philadelphia Eagles: Nolan Smith, Edge, Georgia
     
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  7. zeeshan2

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    They are not going to trade back after trading all the way to one lol. That would be stupid
     
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  8. STR8Thugg

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    Yeah ****ing right. I mean Richardson is awesome, but he’s a complete wild card and I highly doubt that’s the direction they are going.
     
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  9. STR8Thugg

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    Oh yeah, of course. The ole’ trade the farm for the 1st pick and then trade back down move.

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. coachbadlee

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    No, Bryce.
     
  11. br0ken_shad0w

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    Not letting the Colts get either quarterback is the true winner of that trade.
     
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  12. Marshall Bryant

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    So?
     
  13. blackistan

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    If the Ravens agreed to this it'd be insane..colts instantly would be running the afc south n probably become real contenders
     
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  14. Marshall Bryant

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    Let's call a team's total capital X. Spending on any individual player, no matter how good, has a peak before passing the point of diminishing returns because it leaves less for a quality supporting cast. A QB like Jackson cannot be acquired if the total cost is 0.5 X.

    I have the same problem in baseball. The best player in baseball (it at least used to be Trout) can be overpaid because it does not leave room for a supporting cast. He may go an entire career with a single playoff early in his career before his contract was signed. This is because it is a team sport, not an individual one.
     
  15. raining threes

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    Trade down with the Raiders.
     
  16. CRJ713

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    CJ Stroud will be the best QB out of this class. I have a really bad feeling about BY.
     
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  17. Hawkeye84

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    Skip Bayless

    I'LL SAY IT AGAIN: THE CHICAGO BEARS WILL ULTIMATELY REGRET NOT TAKING BRYCE YOUNG WITH THE NO. 1 OVERALL PICK. JUSTIN FIELDS IS PRETTY GOOD. BRYCE YOUNG WILL BE EXTREMELY GOOD.
     
  18. Marshall Bryant

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    Am I the only one who sees BY and thinks Brigham Young instead of Bryce Young?
     
  19. Hawkeye84

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    Probably
     
  20. Mashing

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    Let's not bury the Colts because I think they'll punt this years draft (in regards to drafting a QB) and end up with Caleb Williams next year. That's bad for the Texans and this division. I think we end up with Young at this point and I'm okay with that. Has the tools you want at QB.
     

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