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Trade Victor?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Landry's Tooth, Mar 4, 2023.

  1. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

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    He is french, so yes
     
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  2. Astrodome

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    If we get 2, would you trade #2, jalen, and jabari for Victor?
     
  3. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    We are getting ahead of getting ahead of ourselves here.
     
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  4. 9baller

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    Yes
     
  5. rockets1995

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    Stop Assuming the Rockets are getting Victor, I am mentally prepared for Victor to go to the Spurs or other Western Conference Teams.

    Ignore watching highlights of Victor, it only builds up too much of a letdown on Lottery Night.
     
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  6. OremLK

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    No GM would ever do this. Ever.

    Some of these posts need to actually imagine themselves being in the GM role. Would you be the guy who traded away a consensus generational talent "best since LeBron" and all that? If it turns out to be true and the guy wins multiple championships and becomes one of the GOATs how do you stand before the team's owner and defend trading the guy away?

    If you draft him and he turns out to be a bust or gets injured despite every front office in the league agreeing you have to take him, you can defend that decision and just say nobody could have known.

    If you trade him away and he turns out to be as great as everyone says, you're screwed.
     
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  7. Corrosion

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    His injury history is quite worrisome, especially for a big man & he's bigger than most ....

    The psoas injury and the stress fracture in the fibula are of particular concern.

    I think going forward, adding weight to his frame will be detrimental yet impossible to avoid. Even the thinnest among us put on some weight as adults. He won't stay 7'5" 220.

    A player's best ability has to be availability .... if you can't play, it really doesn't matter how great you are.
    Victor has missed significant time with these injuries as an 17-18 year old and before entering the NBA and its grind of a season.

    Yeah, there might be a package out there that I'd really consider .... what exactly that package is, I am not sure.
     
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  8. Landry's Tooth

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    The big difference is unlike Lebron, there are health concerns.

    After going through Yao it's a concern...

    I think if there was an allstar under 27 and 4-5 unprotected picks you'd have to think about it...
     
  9. pmac

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    Look back in time.

    Imagine if the Cavs traded Lebron James for Eddy Curry, Jay Williams and picks or Shane Battier, Drew Gooden, and picks.

    People forget how rare it is to find a truly great player that gives you a legitimate chance to be a championship team.

    The only reason you even consider trading Wemby is if you have great Intel that he has some career threatening injury or he's murdered someone.
     
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  10. kjayp

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    i think a more realistic question... and what i was pondering.... what is the price to go from #2 to #1?

    i mean if we got #1.... is there a price that we'd be willing to trade down to #2 - take Scoot... and what else?

    if we got #2... what would be the price to move up to #1?
     
  11. Swapshop

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    Every decision needs to be ran by the Head Honcho first. What we think doesn't matter.
     
  12. cml750

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    I would consider it for the right package due to the injury history of freakishly tall players. I have a strong feeling whoever drafts Wemby will likely regret it in a few years. If we end up with him I hope I am wrong.
     
  13. theDude

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    When the Cavaliers traded the first pick, they got back Kevin Love, who was one of the best players in the league coming off an All-Star appearance. Chet and Giddey is not a comparable return. Chet is as big of an unknown as Victor at this point. A more comparable return would be Trae Young. Would you do that?
     
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  14. baller4life315

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    It’s a two man draft, which means the only scenario you would consider is trading down from #1 to #2.

    If we’re in love with Scoot and Harden isn’t coming back, I would at least entertain offers. Especially from a team like OKC that would vastly overpay.
     
  15. Caesar

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    We already traded Victor Oladipo. We should have never traded for him. Made no sense. Glad he's gone. He sucks.

    Did you know there were 2 players named Victor drafted in the 84 draft? Victor is a rare name in the NBA but 2 were selected in our Hakeem draft. They never played a single game, they were only there to show us all these years later that disguise is the limit and Victor is a blessing in the skies.
     
  16. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I might consider Scoot AND a max-worthy player (e.g. SGA) for Wemby. I MIGHT. Having a microscopic look at Wemby's health and fitness would be priority number 1. Is there any indication that his body can be the outlier who stays healthy at that height?

    Still it's so hard to turn down Wemby because he's also a perfect fit on any team. He would be amazing for us playing the 5 on defense, the 4 on offense.

    There's even more risk than that. The GM acquiring Wemby... his career is over with one serious injury to Wemby. The league has never been less friendly to slow players and being 7'5 is totally unnecessary. I wish he was 7'0 it would put a lot less pressure on his knees, improve his quickness and barely affect his offensive game in a league where C's are shrinking.

    If Wemby goes down, that GM traded away an insane amount of assets for one concentrated asset that in this case didn't pan out. It's such a big risk. Not saying you shouldn't take it because potential reward is really high, but it would be a really crazy trade for both parties. Stakes would be ultra high and I'm not sure you can find two GM's to play this game of Russian Roulette with their careers.
     
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    Lol Chet being a main piece in a Victor deal qould be a horrible mistake
     
  18. xiki

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    Basketball trade rule: the team that tradeth one for many losers trade.
     
  19. NewAge

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    #1 pick is more valuable than a #2 pick. Attaching negative value to the #2 only makes it worse. No team would do that. Jalen and Jabari need to build some value to trade them.
     
  20. NewAge

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    Looking at young stars. would/likely.
    Definitely/no-shot: Luka.Tatum.
    Definitely/long shot: Halliburton. Ja Morant. SGA.
    Would consider/long shot: Trae. Zion. ANT. Mobley. Banchero.
    No, thanks/long shot: Cade. Scotty Barnes.
    No, thanks/possible: Herro. Adebayo. JJJ.

    I guess you take a chance on a genetic anomaly, with all the good and bad that comes with it, and just roll the dice…
     

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