Drugmaker Eli Lilly caps the cost of insulin at $35 a month, bringing relief for millions

Yeah I came back to say Walmart doesn't require a prescription. I really don't know how Walmart does it. I never really considered it's not just price but after posting I really thought about your question.

For a type 1 diabetic Diabetes doesn't change. I don't produce insulin, I have so much sugar in my blood, I need to get it to normal range, I need so much insulin.

 

Some reasons …

TLDR: emergency access or even regular use for those without dr or insurance, but it’s problematic if you don’t know what you are doing

https://khn.org/news/you-can-buy-insulin-without-a-prescription-but-should-you/

 

Where did I state this? I am unaware of this event or discussion

 

I have two very close friends who are type 1 and there is a difference. The insulin formulations they take every now and then they change due to changes in their own metabolism as they age. I’ve witnessed first hand several times when they’ve had to dealt with plummeting blood sugar. They’ve told me that they can’t talk just any insulin formulationZ

 

Again, it can be a different adjustment. People who perform, have athletic activities, work schedules or hobbies may have different times each day when they need to work, eat, exercise, etc. All of those things affect the way a person's body uses insulin. Avoiding spikes and low blood sugar requires a different amount of flexibility for different people.

It is impossible to say that it is always an easy adjustment

 

Yep. It makes a definite difference.

 

It's just an adjustment of time and eating. You can adjust to the time the insulin kicks. You only take the fast acting before you eat if needed

 

I don't know your friends situations but at the end of the day the result is the same. The fast acting is for spikes of blood sugar, it just brings it down immediately. Ideally you're not taking any amount that lowers it too much but that happens to me and every diabetic, it's not unique. Its not an exact calculation

 

Frederick Banting is probably spinning in his grave.

 

Which isn't always easy depending on the schedule, and how much you need is adjusted based on activity amount and type. Many people have varying schedules which aren't regularly. A person on a tour doesn't always know when they can eat, what they can eat, or the carb count in what they will be eating. The meal times and foods can be different each day. People that get called in for extra hours of work, have to reschedule activities etc, have variables that change all of the time. It's different for different folks.

I've tried many types of insulin and only one type works best for me, and it isn't the $25 kind. My physician and I have tested out and worked with all of the different types of insulin and one is way better than the others. One delivery method works better for me and my schedule. Your blanket statements of what people can and can't do to adjust aren't based on experience, a physician's knowledge or anything other than possibly your own experience.

 

We're talking 15 and 30 minutes. If you don't get to lunch after taking it just keep a candy bar or something with you if that can happen.

 

You can't take a candy bar break if your job is being on stage performing, if you are in the middle of an athletic competition, if you're operating a camera on a movie set, if you're a law enforcement officer in the middle of a pursuit, etc. There are so many variations where one type of insulin and program work better than others. That's why doctors work with patients to determine which delivery method and type of insulin work best.

 

So what specifically would happen on stage in the middle of a show that the special doctor with the special insulin is predicting that happens at the specific time the special insulin is going to kick in.

As far as your other examples it's not like you instantly go so short of insulin that you can't grab something during a timeout. You're being ridiculously argumentative.

The only difference in the insulins is time. You just adjust time

I'm giving you the stage example because one monkey don't stop no show but if anything can be timed it's a show

Also ideally you won't go short of sugar and secondly you just have to eat within the time frame, not exactly at the peak

 

1. There is a reason why doctors work with patients to meet their schedule and find what works best which can be a specific insulin or a combination of insulins. There is an almost infinite number of variables.
2. The doctor might prescribe the insulin pump with the Novalog or Humalog Insulin with is the shortest type and is different than other insulins. These act almost like an artificial pancreas. They provide a great deal of flexibility but even with insurance, are very expensive (with sensors, pump, and insulin).
3. It can absolutely be like you don't realize that you are going into low blood sugar until you are already low. If you are involved in some activities, you might continue to drop because the activity causes your body to need less insulin, thus the insulin on board will cause a further dip. Also eating can take some time to cause the rise in BG level.

I hope whatever you are doing works for your diabetes if you actually do have it. Whether or not you do have it or don't, you shouldn't really comment about what works for everyone and try and present an overinflated knowledge of insulin and how the different types work.

 

The only variable is time. If a doctor adjusts to your lifestyle then that's one set lifestyle for one person. Whatever they prescribe, they only prescribe one insulin right? The insulin acts the same way every time right?

This conversation is really going off to a level that really doesn't make sense because if a person sees a doctor they probably have insurance and probably don't pay full price for insulin. Honestly I don't really understand news reports about people not being able to afford it because if you have insurance it should be affordable.

If a person knows they need a short acting insulin and they have some money issues I'm sure they can get used to the Walmart Novalin brand. It's unlikely your examples of sports and acting would apply to them

 

Sigh. You don't understand how PBMs work and how they collude with insurance companies to keep insulin high. Not every type of insulin is covered by every plan and most plans still have high co pays for them suprisingly. Iike i said read this thread



PBMs are destroying America and folks need to wake the eff up

 

Not disputing quick/long lasting insulin, but there is qualitative differences in insulin. Ask anyone with a child who had to go through multiple types that didn’t sting, burn, or cause irritation at the injection site.

 

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I don't really want to argue about t this. I understand you're making a general point about the drug industry but insulin is something that is so prevalent it doesn't really apply to your point. So many people have diabetes and insulin has been around so long that even though the demand is ground it's too generic for cartel like activity

 

My examples weren't the only variables but some of the almost endless amounts of variables.

I'm not saying that nobody should be bale to use the cheaper insulin. I'm saying that isn't the best treatment for everyone. And there are more than 2 differences with insulin.

 

I'm not a diabetic but I've heard from others who are that they use different formulations and that those change over time.