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  1. astros123

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    Do you care to break down this 200b in detail that we've given? I'll bet you anything in this world you're posting disinformation.
     
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  2. Commodore

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    Kirby didn't seem to think so
     
  3. Deckard

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    You don't care how dishonest your posts are, Ensign. We haven't supported Ukraine with anything remotely approaching the figure you "passed along." It's a lie, but you couldn't care less. Just like you couldn't care less about what Putin, trump's "good friend," is doing to Ukraine, Europe's largest democracy.
     
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    what's the "correct" figure?
     
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    Quite wasting my time.
     
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  6. astros123

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    https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid-ukraine-2022

    Right leaning CRFB

    "Biden Administration has sent Ukraine roughly $26 billion of direct military aid, mainly in the form of military hardware, training, and supplies."

    People forget that the numbers you see INCLUDE restocking everything were sending there also.
     
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  7. basso

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    so hot.

     
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    I don't understand. you called Commodore a liar for posting what seemed like a very low key vid. if you think he's a liar, why not offer your thoughts on why?
     
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    we sent $113 billion in 2022 alone, so your number is wrong. Not sure what we have sent this year

    https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid-ukraine-2022

    weird that you tried to claim $26B when your post says otherwise in the headline. that $26B is on top of the $113B passed by congress , so thats at least $139B in 2022.
     
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  10. astros123

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    The 26b is part if the 113b did you even read the link. The 26b I quoted is direct military aid only in weapons. The other money we gave in humanitarian aid and to replenish our stocks.

    Do you realize every weapon we give ukraine is being replaced and funded at the same for our own military. We're not just giving them weapons without refilling
     
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    I did read the link and it says you are wrong. the visual chart there shows you as wrong too
     
  12. astros123

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    You're trolling
     
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    I have posted my thoughts, my opinions about this war and the response of our country and our allies to Putin's mad, brutal invasion numerous times here. You know what he posted wasn't remotely accurate, or else you are merely pretending to have a strong interest in the invasion of Ukraine. Why didn't you set him straight. Why didn't you point out how wrong his information is, whatever his source may be?

    I'll add this. You "like" every post @Space Ghost makes that's related to the invasion of Ukraine, regardless of what it is, regardless of how absurd it might be. If you agree with his posts, why not say so?
     
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    I want to be clear, I liked this post because I agree with it…the world needs to collectively demonstrate that what Putin is doing won’t be tolerated…there’s a cost to that, to be sure…but the cost of not paying that is way more costly.
     
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    Liar? Maybe he’s just confused. Mentally ill? Most likely. Careful which wagon you hitch to
     
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    Thanks, Max. I'd like to add that while we are putting what might appear to be a huge sum of money into helping Ukraine defeat Putin's attempt to conquer and subjugate their country, in reality it is but a fraction of our defense budget, and not all that large a fraction, as difficult as that may be for some to believe.

    I would also like to add something else that I think many overlook. The armed forces of Ukraine are taking the military assistance from the United States, NATO and the other countries, and there are many, sending them aid, and putting it to use. Those armed forces are, incredibly, busy destroying much of Russia's army on the battlefield.

    They have successfully prevented the far larger Russian air force from establishing air superiority over their country, destroying an astonishing number of Russian warplanes in the process. The missiles Russia is using this winter to attack civilian infrastructure? The overwhelming majority are launched from outside of Ukraine.

    Ukraine has sunk the flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, the Moskva, a powerful missile cruiser (one of 3 in the Russian Navy), using missiles Ukraine herself developed. In doing so, Ukraine has also forced Russia to keep most of their powerful Black Sea Fleet in port at Sevastopol in Crimea out of fear that they will lose more of it, part of that fleet stolen from Ukraine when Crimea was seized by Putin's special forces.

    Vladimir Putin made a grievous miscalculation. Continuing, increasing the aid to Ukraine is acting in the best interest of the United States, of NATO, of the European Union, the United Kingdom, and democracy. In my opinion.
     
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    Wow. Biden is first president to be in a war zone where air raids are going off in almost a capital in almost a century. Crazy.
     
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    Does anyone think for a minute trump or DeSantis ever sit on a train for multiple hours just to enter an active war with air raids going off.
     
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    Zelensky and Biden spitting fire with a new mixtape album drop:

    IMG_20230220_075106_140.jpg
     
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