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All Three Rising Stars were Embarassing

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Cutty312, Feb 17, 2023.

  1. KingCheetah

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    #FallingStars
     
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    Ish Smith is a journeyman PG with a career 7 ppg average. I'm highly confident that Scoot Henderson will exceed this without having really even watched him.

    I also think he's likely to match or exceed KPJ's output next year - which makes him 2 years ahead rather than 2 years behind. Rookie KPJ averaged 10 ppg, 2assists and 2 TO and 1 soup toss.

    Not that hard to exceed.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    You are still missing the point, I am not comparing KPJ's ROOKIE year to Hendersons, I am comparing where they are TODAY - as a let's get better tomorrow type of deal.

    Scoot Henderson may exceed all expectations I don't know, but with all these young kids coming into the league and everyone fawning over guys that aren't really even good yet, it is like we have lowered expectations so much for top picks.

    Whereas there used to be players like Iverson, Bird, Magic, MJ, Dream, Lebron - at the top of the draft, now we have MAYBE players ....higher propensity to bust.

    I believe building through the draft is a worse strategy than ever.

    DD
     
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    The only way around this would be to turn high school into a minor league and put the best players together with the best coaches for 3 years. The NCAA is only a shell of what it was and doesn't support our evaluation process, let alone development anymore. The kids might actually get a better education in that structure too.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    I'm not missing the point - not only is scoot Henderson highly likely to exceed KPJ'S rookie output, he's likely to match what he's doing as a 4th year player this year. 19-5 is not that hard to get these days - if scoot Henderson is more or less given carte blanche to orchestrate an offense, even next year, the way Porter is, i don't see how he doesn't come close.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Well I disagree, his Gleague numbers are underwhelming, nothing says he will take the NBA by storm other than a bunch of internet hypers that basically create a giant GROUP think situation.

    I think Porter is 2 years ahead of Henderson - but that is just an opinion - I just value NBA numbers over Gleague numbers...even there, KPJ has better numbers than Henderson.

    In the end though, what I think doesn't matter, I just don't believe in falling for the hype because someone is a good athlete and can dunk....the NBA is littered with failures as players that could do that.

    I also believe KPJ is vastly undervalued by our fan base.....but not our org.

    DD
     
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    Doesn't have anything to do with Gleague numbers - while i have a lot of problems with the scouting industrial complex and how the big boarders whiffed massively on Jabari Smith, eg, the fact that Scoot has been talked about as the top non Wembanyama prospect of the last 3-4 drafts is significant. And that talk is not based on gleague statistical projections.

    Like I said you overvalue KPJ based on his box score contribution. It's not that hard to put up those stats in this era with enough license to do so, and KPJ has license to drive wherever he wants, including home at halftime.

    I don't think it's unreasonable to expect Henderson to meet the same "ok box score #s if given complete and total freedom" standard
     
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    I don't mind revamping the whole 5 star, 4 star, 3 star recruitment system and just toss them into a pot.
     
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    100%. Half the league start to call it and quits when they can't make the playoffs. Makes for some padded numbers on the offensive end.
     
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    God, don't do that, Snow, good lord.
     
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    Looks like Jokic and Doncic didn't get to do a whole lot in the all-star game either. I remember they usually barely let Yao touch the ball back then.
     
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    They don't dunk spectacularly for the native viewers.

    Good old regular NBA contributors.
     
  13. CircaSurvive

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    Lebron picked Jokic dead last and couldn't even pronounce Luka's name right lol
     
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    Hookah Doncic.
     

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