Its time to discuss trading Jalen Green while he's still worth a damn

Funny what a good coach can do, eh? Linsanity was an impressive streak, for sure. It's unfortunately that's all it was. If you're comparing that 6 (?) week stretch of Linsanity to Green's overall performance I wouldn't call that a fair comparison. There's a reason what Lin did during that streak was pretty impressive.

 

Jalen has had 15 free throws or more 3 out of 53 games this year.

Let's not talk about it as a skillset he has... he barely gets more calls than Sengun...

Don't think I didn't notice you focus on less than half of Jalen's game and focus solely on the area he has an advantage on Jabari.

Kind of dishonest...

 

DD.....

 

Ya I'm sure having guys like Tyson Chandler, Amare Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony didn't help.

Please dude. Green has had entire months of averaging 20+ ppg on 60% ts as a 19 and 20 year old.

 

Booker can shoot, Green cannot.

That's why you cited fg% and not efg%...

 

How many times was Jalen the point guard again?

 

Looks like you missed the context of my reply. I suggest looking at the comment I responded to.

 

Same number of times that Lin was asked to be the primary scoring option.

So if you think it's relevant to compare their points, it should also be relevant to compare their assists.

 

Booker's career 3P% is not as impressive in real life as you might think. Only two season's over 38 and career average under 36. We disagree if you think that Green can't make that small bump.

 

The hell they don't.

 

Unintentionally hilarious.

Can you figure out why that is?

 

You're right. You're comparing Lin's streak to any streak Jalen has had. Yep, Lin's streak lasted longer. Touche.

I'd argue that Jalen has flashed greatness more often, but not as consistently or consecutively. Hopefully this won't derail into a "who's the better player" thread.

 

20 years old 19.9ppg, 5.3rpg, 3.8apg, 1.4spg, 1bpg, 3.1tov, 48.2eFG% swept 2nd year in a row on a good team with 4 all stars and vets
20 years old 21.9ppg, 4rpg, 3.6apg, 0.8spg, 0.2bpg, 2.9tov, 48.2eFG% youngest team in the NBA with tanking the only purpose

Main difference is one team got to sign the game changing big we're tanking to hope to draft. 2nd biggest difference is Jalen is still too skinny compared to the other guy at the same age which does worry me. Both were acting like spoiled famous people off the court, but one was hitting the gym hard and it showed from 19 to 20. Jalen hasn't gained an ounce of muscle and he's overall smaller.

No, you can't directly compare and say that is the projection as i know the haters want to do. One career finished(and started next to a top 10 player), the other is just beginning. The point is YOU don't know what the future holds, and those same impatient unfair Jalen haters would be hating on the same player above at the same age and wanting to give up on and trade him.
If Wemby ends up becoming a future top 10 player commanding double and triple teams, you don't know what kind of wonders that will do for Jalen's game. Of course, we could miss out on Wemby and Jalen goes on having a forgetful LaVine type of career that people just want to watch dunk or he could still end up amazing. We don't know.

It's still too early. I still have the same concerns i did pre draft. He's smaller than i would like. He's too skinny. I don't like his chicken wing shooting form. He still lands poorly on his dunks. He makes it harder for himself trying to get the highlight reel double pump and change of direction layup like MJ, but he doesn't have those hands or the strength. He uses too much energy chasing the highlight reel.

I want the tank for Wemby. It's logical, i just wish we invested more into training these guys both in the gym and working on their negatives to become positives, but it looks like we're just wasting time letting them play pick up ball and waiting for that Wemby sweepstakes before we really begin anything.

 

What Booker is NOT HIM, he is a very good NBA player but he is not a Superstar - he needs a good cast around him to succeed. Utah realized he and Gobert would never work and moved on......

That is what good orgs do when they are looking to be great.

DD

 

A little misleading. He has had one month. There are two other months where he combined to play only 8 games (5 and 3) so counting those as a month seems misleading.

His Nov 2022 at 60.2 ts% was followed with 52.6, 52.0, and 54.0.

At this point that looks like just a hot streak... his field goal attempts were only 16 that month per game so it appears like he did a better job avoiding dumb shots.

Fits with my suggestion to shoot less...

 

Aren't you the one who b****es about alleged arbitrariness of stat thresholds? Why does Jalen need to have above 15 fta to make fts beneficial to his efficiency?

Sengun in fact has a higher ftr than Green. I never denied otherwise. You know what's awesome. Sengun and Green are 1 and 2 in their draft class in ftr (free throw rate) amongst first round picks that get more than 20 minutes per game. For Green, the gap between him and the other guards in his class is large. Sengun though leads all in the draft class.


There have been plenty of games where Green has like a 6/15 night but still ended up with like 25 pts because he had 9 fta. That is an efficient game according to ts% if he did something like that night in and night out. Many of his efficient games came that way this season. And in relation to Jabari, that is something he doesn't have in him at least yet. If he shoots bad from the field its a bad offensive game period. He's not beating dudes off the dribble and generating easy pts at the line to compensate for a off night. Green can do that and the fact that he's second in his draft class in ftr says this.

 

Green's last 23 games of the season which spanned 1 and a half months he averaged 23 ppg on 60% ts.

Ask yourself if Jeremy Lin at 19-20 would be capable of that in the NBA.

 

How long do we let DD think that Booker and Mitchell are the same guy?

 

This is what happens when your head is stuck too far up the head honcho's ass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Booker

Do research and Look up who u are talking about before pushing your narrative that good teams know when to get rid of players they draft

 

God damn, DD for a second made me 2nd guess myself and had to look up Booker's team history. Swear he was on the Suns since day 1 lol.