Its time to discuss trading Jalen Green while he's still worth a damn

Now guys want Jalen , a bona-fide scorer , to average more assists than starting PGs? No wonder he'll never meet expectations on here.. lol .. Yall hoping for Lebron 2.0! Smh

 

This has been the worst coached team in the league for 2 years. We owe it to the process to see what happens in year 3 with a new coach. At least with BTG you can see where he is coming from. You are just a dumb ************.

 

We have terrible fans who believe KPJ is the next Zeke. JG will be Vince Carter

 

I hear your frustration. We have A LOT vested in Green and we STILL truly don’t know what we have. We owe it to ourselves to wait because he means more to us then any other team. That means we are going to take a loss if we were to move him now.

we have the hope he may respond to new guidance. We don’t know the day to day of the organization and what is asked of him. (BROKEN if I had to guess based on how low level players are passing up playing time to move away from the team)

 

I think this all boils down to one question: what do you think the range of future outcomes looks like for a 21yo score-only smallish guard averaging 22 ppg on -5% adjusted TS in year 2?

Sounds like you think the median outcome is significantly better than Zach LaVine. I root for this team, I hope you’re right, but I don’t think so.

IMO, it’s something like:


25th percentile: Jordan Clarkson / Lou Williams / Collin Sexton
50th percentile: CJ McCollum / Monta Ellis
90th percentile: Brad Beal
95th percentile: Devin Booker / Donovan Mitchell

If you think that’s the future range, I think you have to be willing to trade him if it gets you an asset with a better shot at getting a true #1 or #2.

People can disagree though - stats or eye test won’t prove the case here either way. Ultimately a lot also depends on what the front office sees behind the scenes too - how coachable is he? How diligent is he in the weight room, in the off-season, and with his nutrition? How do his teammates really feel about him? Does he really love basketball ?

I haven’t heard much about that stuff since pre-draft, so don’t want to speculate.

 

I don't think anyone thought a player like that was coming out the draft that good.

Banchero and cade like the next big time stars in few years. But as far as scorings Edwards and Green will be like insane scorers. They should get Tmac numbers in few years.


Chet homgren curious to see what kind of player he turns out to be. Okc is already starting to roll, they might be the next best team in future west.

 

Lol yeah, him taking more shots (43% more shots than Bari this past game) doesnt have anything to do with scoring more either huh? . It seems like you don't understand the concept of how shots missed on fouled attempts dont get counted towards shot attempts or his shooting %, kinda ironic since you seem to be saying "isn't a difficult idea comprehend" lmao. If you include the shot attempts where he was fouled which is not counted in his stats, and look at pure shot attempts, he got up nearly double what Bari did. Dude is shooting 78% on the season from the FT line, nothing about his game screams efficiency. He is shooting 33% from 3. Delusional people stay delusional. Completely ridiculous how people get on here and try to argue their favorite player is less crappy than someone elses fav player, they are both garbage, no ones saying one is better or worse than the other, you seemed to have missed that part, its more that they are both not very good. Bari contributes in some other ways, he had 12 boards , is a better defender, but they were both -20, and they both are under performing vs. expectations.

 

Landry's tooth with a major beat down of Green stans.

Epic - but in the end, we all want Green to do well, it is ok to criticize and raise expectations....for anyone on the team.....just do it evenly.

DD

 

Dadrunk

 

If you mean Houston injured Tmac then ok. They both have zero chance of becoming orlando Tmac

 

Jalen gets to the FT line because he can create his own shot. Bari can’t. And as I pointed out earlier, Green’s overall TS% is pretty similar to a lot of other young, great guards. But hey, go off. Try to pretend the guy who has shown nothing is as good as the guy who has shown glimpses of greatness.

 

You can talk about bad coaching all you want, but the best players don't have to be coached. You think anybody on Rockets stuff showed Sengun how to operate with the ball, or he just already knew all of that? With Jalen, it seems you must teach him everything, from shooting form and handles to just navigating through traffic. All of the defense. He just plays without effort & dumb, which narrows his potential to be scorer-only guard. Can't build around that, but he will be very important piece to any team. Could be one of the best robins in the game. But I really hoped we get 1st option with him

 

Rockets voting result we got all our answer here

 

Granted it’s Jalens 2nd year and Banchero’s 1st, but Banchero is everybody’s next star and stupid idiots on this board are calling Jalen a bust. Young players struggle.

http://global.nba.com/players/vs/#!/jalen_green/paolo_banchero

 

Banchero is a forward also. Big ts% are usually higher. Green definitely has a far more efficient rookie year.

 

deserves its own thread

 

Ya it's posts like the one you commented on that make me really just feel like I'm wasting my time debating extreme casuals. When someone completely dismisses the value of 17 ft attempts, you know they don't have a single clue about efficiency.


Yes you are exactly right. Jabari at least at this current form of Jabari with the skills and talents he has now will never have a 17 fta game. Not because he will never get the opportunities. It's because getting 17 fta means you are constantly beating your initial defender off the dribble causing defenses to overreact and that usually leads to fouls. Jabari ain't hearing people off the dribble. He just isn't.

 

Corey Brewer showed a glimpse of greatness... so did Jeremy Lin...

If he could create his own shot he would hit more of them right?

Is it good to create shots so hard you miss them at a high rate?

 

More efficient than Banchero this year or more efficient than Jalen this year?

Both?

 

When someone is claiming a player averages 17 free throws when it's about 6 it can be a little entertaining...