Its time to discuss trading Jalen Green while he's still worth a damn

All about context. He doesn't have a pg, he doesn't have a coach, there is no structure or any semblance of an offense system. And the biggest thing is he's only in his second year.
Folks keep wanting to trade him but offers no viable and realistic target. A proven star will b too costly and a side upgrade is pointless.

The least folks could do is wait until he's under a proper coach and has a pg b4 assuming this is all Jalen green amounts 2. It's rare for youngster to b consistently good, green has shown flashes of it without being afford a stable foundation (pg/coach)

 

Dame does not meet the half a decade of prime and has always sucked at defense. At least, Jalen might improve on defense. We know Dame will not. So please take him off your list. Do you really think Luka and/or the Mavs would be willing for him to go to Houston? The Mavs could just release Irving after the season and go after another free agent like Middleton for example. Try to make a list of guys to trade Green straight up for that has a decent chance of happening in the off-season and would be worth it. Here’s mine:

Lamelo Ball
Brandon Ingram (with draft picks)

 

I'm not saying to trade him. I'm saying he's not untouchable and has not met expectations yet.

 

Stars overcome excuses. Luka had very little too.

 

Look I know fans have their favorites but guys until we have "A DUDE" we need to be willing to trade anyone....ANYONE on the team to get to someone we can build around.

Right now we have a ton of MAYBES some of them are further away than others......so you try to trade MAYBES for "DUDES" if you can.....

So yes, explore, trading Green, Sengun, Porter, anyone....if there is a DUDE available......if not stay the course.

DD

 

Okay? Is anyone suggesting Green is going to reach Luka level? Is it Luka or bust or something?

Again, Green is 3rd all time in ppg before reaching 21 for a guard and amongst the top 10 he has one of the higher ts%.

To think he hasn't overcomes anything is absurd. Imagine if he replaced someone like Mathurin playing next to Halliburton for his first couple of years in the league and the easy shots he would get. He simply doesn't get that here minus the couple of dimes Sengun gives him a game.

 

Luka is also the best prospect to come to the nba since lebron, literally a once in 20 years level prospect. Silly comp

 

Not trading green unless it gets a star. One deal I would make is vassel and keldon for green, gup and garuba.

 

Look at their second seasons. Booker was clearly the best player on the Suns. Beal was the 2nd best player on a playoff team. And Kobe was an all-star.

 

If the Suns wanted Green and their firsts back for Bridges I’d do it in a Minute

 

It's just a random scenario, no, it doesn't have to be 'reasonable' because reasonably we're not thinking of trading Green in the first place.

Lamelo Ball is less reasonable than Dame. They would not do that swap and NOP would not make that swap either and pay draft picks to do it.

The reality is, if Green starts looking like a 'bust' you are NOT getting a young star for him unless said young star demanded out. If green starts showing his potential then the Rockets make him untouchable. There is not much room for a sweet spot. If you're trading a young potential player it's often for an established star like Dame in some larger package.

It's fine if he's not the guy to lead a team, we'd still have Sengun, Bari, Our top 5 pick, etc. He'd come here to fill a role and make the team better. A great example is what CP3 did for the Suns.

The fact is next season the team needs established vets. We can't keep putting out a bunch of 20 year olds and expect much to come from it. It would be the blind leading the blind. So yes, I do think we should acquire an established star or fringe all-star player soon. I don't like the "Doesn't fit the timeline" thing anymore after this season. We need vets. Someone that knows you hold the ball when you have a 5 point lead with like 1 minute to go and someone that knows you defend the lob pass with 0.7 seconds left.

I'm saying if the Rockets did that trade for Dame I wouldn't mind it. Dame is 32, he's a skill reliant PG, his decline will be slow and steady since his main strengths have been shooting, handling, not like Russ or Wall who relied heavily on athleticism to dominate games.

As for the other players, the whole convo is unrealistic because what I mentioned earlier. If Green starts to show he's a bust he won't have the value to nab a young star, he'd only get traded for an older star, like Dame. If Green starts to show he might reach his potential than the Rockets themselves would make him untouchable.

So the only realistic options would be older stars.

 

Maybe the OP isn't totally off his rocker.

I was watching the first half of the game after the trade deadline against Miami and was thinking to myself - Damn, Green is a long way from reaching the potential he was drafted for and really that was putting my immediate thoughts mildly as we're watching him launch airballs.

Yes, he's 20 .... but man, I would consider trading him for someone who is more than "full of potential."

No, I wouldn't just give him away at a discount .... but there are players I'd move him for without a second thought.
I'm not attached to the idea of waiting for Green to reach his potential, cashing in on that potential is an option that has to be on the table.

That list is a very short one .... but it does exist.

 

You sound so dumb lol. Kobe wasn’t an all star his 2nd season, he only started 1 game that year. Also, look at Booker’s and Beal’s efficiency. Wtf does where they rank on their teams has to do with anything? Do your homework next time so you won’t sound like a moron

 

No

 

…..and guess what, Green would have his arse out at the gym early and late working his butt off on becoming a better defensive player. My friend, that is called good coaching!!!!!!!

 

You are delusional if you think anybody would trade Dame for Green, or would not accept that trade on the Green end

 

Really? Green has a decade ahead of him. Lillard maybe has a couple of.all-dtar seasons left. No GM would trade trade away Green for Lillard.

 

So, if Green were coached by Spoelstra or JVG he would magically knock down those open shots he currently misses?

Is that what you are saying?

 

I know the games are hard to watch right now but Jesus, the guy averaged 22/4/4 while sweating out being carded at Treasures and turned away… can we take a couple of deep breaths?