Keep kicking the can down the road. Pena,Yordan, Garcia,LMJ, Abreu, possibly Brown now Javier. The 26 squad is quietly shaping up to extend the window further.
Click couldn’t get this done and the money is only like $10,000,000 more than what was offered late in the season last year. I find the Click tenure to be getting weirder and weirder. Why didn’t this get done before?
Steal? No, but it’s still pretty good. Also, $20,000,000 a year won’t look like much in 3-4 years. This move allowed Crane to not have to pay Javier 20+ million a year for 5-8 years, which he is risk adverse to do… it lets him do it for 2 seasons and then can reassess.
You wanted this done with essentially NO track record of starting (prior to 2022)? Sorry but you are making absolutely no sense here. Sounds like a whole bunch of hindsight to me. Who signs what was essentially a relief pitcher with only 155 total innings pitched to that kind of term and money (after 2021 season)? That same Javier that had the seminal moment in the 21 WS giving up that 2 run home run that tilted the series heavily in the Braves favor (3-1 vs 2-2 series)? Click is gone. He was just a place holder. We really like the new guy. Time to move on. Seriously show me a post by somebody on here complaining about why we didn't extend Javier after 2021? I dare you.
What the hell are you rambling on about? Who said anything about 2021? The Astros we’re talking to his agent late in the 2022 season and not the 2021. Also, the Astros offer to Javier only went up like $10,000,000 and Brown got it done when Click couldn’t…. Draw whatever conclusions you want or don’t want from that.
Sorry I thought you were referring to the end of 2021, not sure how I missed that important detail in your post. Click as I said was just a placeholder and was cut off at the knees by Crane apparently, as his departure was planned far in advance of when it actually happened. He was a lame duck GM. I just don't see how we can even fairly evaluate his tenure at this point.
We are good. As for Click, I don’t dislike him or think he was a terrible GM. If the Reds for example hired him, I would think he would be a good candidate. I just find his tenure really weird based on what I have heard from others and what has become public knowledge. There is some disconnect there. Well what has become very obvious is that Crane had no confidence in Click. Brown was able to offer &10,000,000 more and got the Javier deal done. I don’t think Crane would have had that kind of faith in Click.
Because he had no experience doing so. The Odorizzi contract was **** but then he didn't want to give Verlander the second year. Weird AF. I imagine that was a factor for Crane not to trust him. Crane has been negotiating contracts all his life.
With negotiations, sometimes people have a knack for it, or they know when to bring in/take advice from the professionals like Crane. I'm pretty good at negotiating but for big deals I'm involved in, we bring in a team of professional negotiators.
I don’t know. Maybe? I say this because Brown made a comment alluding to being willing to give a little more than what Crane would be comfortable doing. However, by the same token, Crane repeatedly pointed to Brown’s ability to lock up players when he hired Brown. So it’s all a little bizarre too me…. The only conclusions I can reach are that either Click wasn’t great at negotiating or he wasn’t great at communicating with Crane and talking him into offering a little more… but that part doesn’t make sense because Crane hired Brown in part because of his ability to get guys signed. Either way, the extension of Javier has a little risk but is still excellent and I don’t think a $10,000,000 increase after what he did in the playoffs is unreasonable.
Cristian Javier is going to make this contract look almost as ridiculous as Yordan’s. Completely understand why he would sign it, but he’s going to blow the doors off this thing I’m with you. I don’t have a vendetta against Click. He was fine, great in some areas and weird in others… but hiring Brown was a brilliant move, and this Javier signing just adds to my enthusiasm. Yet another terrific move by the best organization in sports. wHeN tHe **** DoEs SpRiNg TrAiNiNg StArT?!
Because he was already resigned to getting his money in that kind of increment. That just guarantees he actually gets it in the case of an injury or something like that. He’s not “giving up” anything by taking the money that way.
