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Congratulations to Gov DeSantis

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jul 31, 2021.

  1. AroundTheWorld

    AroundTheWorld Insufferable 98er
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    removing every single book - yes, that is clearly a political stunt, and an overreaction
     
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    The notices follow the passage of a controversial law signed by Florida governor Ron DeSantis last year, which requires each book made available or assigned to students in schools to be selected by a school district employee who holds a valid “educational media specialist” certificate. The new rule is part of a training policy for school librarians which was recently approved by the Florida Board of Education after months of campaigning on the part of right-wing groups such as Moms for Liberty, which have strategically placed their members on school boards across the state.

    The law also creates liability for teachers who “knowingly or unknowingly” provide access to a book that is deemed harmful to a minor, allowing them to be charged with a third degree felony. According to a Florida Department of Education training document, material that is “harmful to minors” is defined as any book with depictions that “Predominantly appeal to a prurient, shameful, or morbid interest” and that is “patently offensive” and “without serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for minors.”

    How those terms are interpreted can vary greatly from one school to the next. Some groups and lawmakers are trying to expand these definitions of “harmful” to include any books with LGBTQ characters and themes.

    how very vague of them

    the real political stunt is republicans still pretending that they actually care about kids or are a party of "family values"

    useless thoughts and prayers when the classroom gets shot up, but heaven forbid a book has a character in it that's gay

     
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    all it takes is somebody challenging 1 book they have on the shelf, and that could be a felony for them even if they knowingly or unknowingly knew it violated this law, and now clearing out their shelves is supposed to be an overreaction for political points...

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    So first of all, I do agree that that law is too vague. And that's why no felony charge based on it should/will ever actually hold up. This is clearly just pushback in a little culture war that was really started by the Left, with all their attempts at indoctrinating youth.
     
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    Ha, and teachers are just supposed to carry on based on an assumption that a felony charge wouldn't hold up in court? Yeah right...

    1st comes banning books, then comes banning certain aspects history

    1 day teaching about slavery will be considered "woke" and "CRT"
     
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    I don't believe that will be the case, at all.
     
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    At times like these we need someone like Trump.

    He is not the hero we deserve but one we need.
     
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    Yeah, we KNOW. :rolleyes:
     
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    Nonpoliticians (teachers and librarians) react to (politically driven) laws to protect themselves from possible felony charges is being political. LOL. Nice way to swap non-politicians with politicians. DeSantis got some devoted fanboys.
     
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    You blame "the Left" for "indoctrinating youth," when that's exactly what DeSantis is attempting to do, while also indoctrinating their parents by making them afraid of what they don't understand. DeSantis works hard to increase that lack of understanding. What's sad is that you don't see what he's doing. It's obvious to me, but clearly not obvious to you.

    What DeSantis is working hard to accomplish is to promote his political career by inducing fear into those who should know better, but don't. It's what Erdoğan is busy doing in Turkey. It's what Orbán is doing in Hungary. They gain power through elections, and then make it more difficult for anyone opposing them to win an election. DeSantis is doing the same thing in the state of Florida, in my opinion, just on a smaller scale. For now.
     
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    Comparing DeSantis to Erdogan is insane.

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/02/free-turkey-media/

    https://www.voanews.com/a/number-of-journalists-jailed-in-turkey-doubles-report-finds-/6878284.html
     
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    So who is going to pay the teacher's legal fees when they are the first one to test the law? You?
     
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    What in the entire f*** are you talking about? Who is trying to indoctrinate who into what? You spout this verbal diarrhea with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. No one is trying to turn anyone gay or trans or black or anything else. The only indoctrination going on is this governor trying to scare mentally weak parents and kids into thinking that learning about people different from them is something to be afraid of.

    And why should teachers bear the burden of the legal system to prove that this law is idiotically vague and the penalties too harsh?
     
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    You need to step away from the keyboard and gather yourself.
     
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    You need not worry about me. I'm relaxing with a nice bourbon, just wondering why you're so frightened of some books and need your daddy governor to protect you from them.
     
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    I'm not the one emptying the shelves. Your fellow leftist teachers are.
     
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    Due to pressure from your "freedom loving" governor.
     
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    DeSantis seems like a really insecure guy.
     
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    What an embarrassment the left posters are on this board
     

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