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The Death of Tyre Nichols

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Jan 26, 2023.

  1. tinman

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    Those cops look a squad built to beat up gang members

    my solution of an AI and majority machine police force won’t happen soon enough
    Only machines and AI can provide safe policing
    Just like self driving cars are better than drunk drivers
     
  2. Major

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    Are these things actually true, though? Or this a perception relating to politicians trying to scare people into voting one way or the other?

    Poverty is basically at all-time lows.
    Murder rates are up a bit more, but violent crime in general, while up from 2019, is basically near multi-generational lows. Same with property crimes.
    Homelessness is up a tad the last couple of years, but still on a pretty steady decline and lower than 10-30 years ago.

    Social media has made crime more scary by letting people with agendas like tinman more easily create their narratives to scare people, but the actual crime statistics don't match any of that.
     
  3. Xopher

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    Memphis handled this exceptionally well. The cops were fired, charged, the public was warned about the egregiousness, THEN the video was released. Hopefully other cities will learn from Memphis. Memphis has shown this can be handled correctly. I'm pretty sure the next time this happens, and the city doesn't handle it the way Memphis has, that city will experience riots. Especially if the cops are white.
     
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  4. Xopher

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    Give me 100 bucks. I'll call @fchowd0311 . I'm sure we could have a good conversation
     
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  5. DatRocketFan

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    Stanford prison experiment and the milgram experiment has shown when given power or influenced by authority folks can do some pretty cruel sht

    Police officers get away with so much sht, some folks developed a cruel streak
     
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  6. King1

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    I'll give $100 to your favorite charity and put it in your name. I don't honestly believe you would really call him and your views seem to align with him. Plus. I think he's banned now anyways. Just dm me a link and I'll do it
     
  7. Reeko

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    swift justice because these cops are black

    if there wasn’t any bystander video of the George Floyd murder, we’d probably still be waiting for the body cam footage to be released, and all those cops would’ve received a paid vacation at worst as they take 2 years to do an “investigation”

    only time u see body cam footage released this quick is when it makes the cops look good
     
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  8. basso

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    from the linked story:

    Tadarrius Bean and Demetrius Haley both joined the Memphis Police Department in Aug. 2020, NBC News reported, more than two years after the department dramatically loosened the education qualifications to become an officer.

    Recruits no longer needed an associate’s degree or 54 college credit hours to join the force, and could get by with five years of work experience, Action 5 reported.

    Loosening the required qualifications however means that the department is ultimately getting “less desirable” job candidates, Mike Alcazar, an adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and a retired NYPD detective, told The Post.
     
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  9. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes this is the blueprint of how these things should be handled.
     
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  10. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    The Stanford Prison Experiment was faked. The guards did not develop cruelty based on being given power, they were told what to do and even then they didn't always do it (and the things they did were not harmful or anything). They were chastised when they didn't act tough enough. The professor lied to the student prisoners about the rules and refused to release them. The alleged suffering of the prisoners was exaggerated. In pretty much every way the whole thing was a sham, and the decades of citation to it have created a false narrative that making someone an authority figure will make them torture people. It is nonsense.
    We usually get all body cam footage to defense counsel within a few days of arraignment.
     
  11. Reeko

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    Ok? And?
     
  12. Invisible Fan

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    I'm seeing more homelessness in California and the actual statistics show more homelessness in coastal cities. While it's true that poverty is lower, we just came off record one-off government stimulus and extended periods of forbearance for rent and college debt. Let's wait a few more years to see whether those vaunted multiplier effects kick in or whether we need more stimulus to maintain the levels you're touting.

    Slicing the numbers differently, income is increasing, but the average income for Black households is less than half of the fewer numbered Asian households.
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    You can argue more about averages, but my point was more focused upon extremes where poor areas and neighborhoods are not being addressed properly and is perpetuating a vicious cycle where law enforcement degrade or escalate the longer they patrol in those areas.

    I only found out about the Scorpion team after the fact, so I don't know whether the residents there generally supported it or if it made them feel safer, but it's still a trend to boost an increased police response even in light of the Floyd murder.

    I suppose the real proof will be whether another differently named team like it springs up a few years after this one is disbanded.
     
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  13. StupidMoniker

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    And the idea that body cams are not released unless they make the cops look good is not true, as evidenced by the fact that we generally release body cam footage within about two days of arraignment.
     
  14. Reeko

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    lol

    if body cam makes a cop look good, it is all over social media within a day or 2 of the incident…if it makes them look bad, it takes months or even years for the public to see it, except in this case

    so when u just so happen to get body cam footage means absolutely nothing to me
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    I have not read this thread.

    I have a question.

    How is anyone defending this?
     
  16. Zboy

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    By being a keyboard warrior.

    There is more tension here than on the streets.
     
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  17. LosPollosHermanos

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    what the **** dude, chill out. Theres a 1-2 SD of egregiousness that's beyond the level of socially acceptable that is tolerated. You're getting on Bobby levels. Just relax, neither of you know each other.

    You're on something tonight and I am worried for your health. This **** is not about you and you've derailed the entire thread as I've been trying to view what other posters have to say about this. You keep saying other people have changed but all I've seen from you is a deep instability and inability to debate stances outside of your own without emotional tendencies or insults. You're a good dude and actually a purple heart recipient from what I recall so I hope whatever is ailing you is rectified. The D&D can be a heated place and brings the worst out of all of us. Good to remember that we're all houstonians / rockets fans etc on this board and despite our differences stand together bro.
     
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  18. LosPollosHermanos

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    It sounds crazy, but I don't think whitlock isn't completely out of his element (I don't agree whatsoever about him pinning this on Tyre, I mean the race bit). My first reaction was thatI thought they knew him, it looked way too personal and emotional. Like a schoolyard gangup or gang violence. I don't think the cops are racist, but I do think him being black they treated him worse. I can't articulate my thought process and need to think of this more, but bottom line I don't see them doing so to a white kid.

    In the age of the internet I've seen just about the worst things imaginable. The one picture that still haunts me to this day (2 decades later) is Emmet Till's face and his mother having the courage to display it
     
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  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Unless the hiring and training practices of new police change, then nothing will change.

    That's not solely a Memphis problem.
     
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    Wow dude you're really stupid.

    No wonder why YouTube grifters who spend hours on "wokeism" grabbed your attention.
     

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