Rockets are drafting there team obviously, and filling in vets here soon. This summer are they spending on vets or next?, they might think Henderson is ready to go with Kpj as 6th man. They will fill or trade players soon . But I'm assuming there about to pay Segun and Jalen some big money when there contracts are up for next 24-25? This team is big time WIP, and who knows what it will look like in few years, or if it's scraped for totally different team around Jalen. Pretty much lot of adults/young players not even 21 yet. Rockets looking like a farm system. Triple AAA team
Yes. Great idea!! But taking bad contracts at the trade deadline for picks that won't convey (when you already have picks) seems a particularly bad idea. What about taking bad contracts on draft day for picks, or when free agency opens, or at next years deadline? What's the rush to use the space for one of the worst possible picks? (I'm just saying the trade above that was posted was extremely unlikely)
Just like the salary cap there is a salary floor. You think it’s a good look for the rockets to go into next season with 70m in cap space? If you look around the league there aren’t many bad contracts that teams are desperate to get out of this offseason. The Rockets need to replace EG’s salary next season. There aren’t a lot of top FAs this off-season so I think it’s best to kick the can down the road a bit. Plus that Detroit pick isn’t all that bad. It ties up Detroits draft capital for a long time and it bagged the Rockets Sengun the first time around. I wonder what it can bag the second time around.
MOVIE STAR TRADE Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -1.5 ppg, +2.4 rpg, and +0.1 apg. Incoming Players Precious Achiuwa 23 year old, 6-8, 244 lb SF from Memphis 8.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 20.1 minutes in 2022-2023 Juancho Hernangomez 27 year old, 6-9, 215 lb F from Movistar Estudiantes (Spain) 3.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16.0 minutes in 2022-2023 Outgoing Players Boban Marjanovic 34 year old, 7-4, 290 lb C from KK Vrsac Swisslion (Serbia) 2.7 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.2 apg in 4.0 minutes in 2022-2023 K.J. Martin 22 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from IMG Academy (Florida) 11.0 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 25.0 minutes in 2022-2023
Could be a good asset to have if they ended up with the 2nd pick and the Rockets 3-5. Would the pistons really want Ball and Henderson both?
Agreed - Alpi can handle the ball admirably for a big man, but only a foolish team would rely on him and Jalen to bring the ball up regularly. You replace Jabari with a guard and one of Sengun or Siakim with Wembayama.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed Protections broski. There are almost always protections on picks when they’re traded.
It's a great look to go into the OFFseason with 70M in cap space. Whether or not that gets used is a different question. While you're lecturing my on how the salary cap works, perhaps you might enlighten me on the date by which a team must reach the salary floor? Is there a way in which a team might use a stack of cap space to garner picks from teams looking to avoid the luxury tax? Or to free up space to hopefully sign a free agent? Look at what the Knicks did to open up the cap space to sign Brunson! Det pick was also combined with Wash pick to acquire Sengun. Not on its own. I guess what I'm hearing here is that you love that pick, and value it at 20M. Personally I could live without it, and think the 20M could net us something more valuable than that pick (which most likely won't convey)
I meant that if the Pistons ended up at 2 maybe they would trade down to the Rockets pick and one of the assets they would receive is that pick back to them. The Pistons nor the Hornets need a PG. As of right now, there is about a 60% chance the Rockets are at 1 or 2 and either the Hornets or Pistons are at #2 and if the Rockets want to pair Scoot with Green/Jabari/Eason/Sengun there is a decent chance it happens.
We will spend money in FA.... we will try and consolidate our assets to make a trade ..... but FA isn't where the best players go anymore to get paid. We are still a few years away from paying our own rookies. I pray Tilman doesn't want to give Middleton the max. I don't really see how Fournier inhibits us from doing anything worthwhile if we are getting a late FRP in return. The pros of the trade from my perspective is we are the 2nd worst 3 point shooting team and Fournier has shot 38% over a 10 year career (albeit is having his worst shooting season) .... we need players on contracts for trades as KPJ will automatically become our biggest contact next season..... and we maybe able to flip Fournier again for a SRP if his shooting is near his career average.
Oh dang didn’t know I was dealing with a capologist….how about the same time all salary tax is levied? At the end of the season. I’m looking at it this way. I would rather overpay a player for one season than sign a player like Middleton the max. Ryan Anderson cough cough… not saying Middleton is as bad as Anderson bc he’s not. But paying Middleton 35m in 2025 might be a nightmare. Get some sort of draft asset and a movable contract for EG. IMO that maintains flexibility for future deals which should be a priory.
Ah now I see what your saying. Makes sense that Henderson could fall.who knows what happens there. I think teams should take the best player available based on their research when picking at the top of the draft. It seems pretty rare when picking for fit works out.
I get what you're saying - I just see it as a really bad move (also saw signing Ryan Anderson as a bad move!). If we don't manage to sign anyone at all with cap space, then do the ol $35mill 1 season contract for a middling player (or split it to 2 x 15mills for average players - tradeable non-guaranteed or something), and then see where we are at late in the year, or even the following off-season?
We just have different philosophies here man. Maybe I’m scared from the Anderson deal and fear another long term nightmare contract too much. If the rockets just replace Gordon’s contract for next season then they still have max cap space this off-season to be creative with. I just want to limit the potential for a bad signing and maximize flexibility.
Yeh - but you're doing the opposite of that swapping Gordon for Fournier. Gordon is not a fully guaranteed contract for next season. P
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -1.0 ppg, -0.8 rpg, and -1.6 apg. Incoming Players Danilo Gallinari 34 year old, 6-10, 233 lb SF from AX Armani Exchange Milan (Italy) No games yet played in 2022-2023 Grant Williams 24 year old, 6-6, 236 lb SF from Tennessee 9.0 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.7 apg in 27.7 minutes in 2022-2023 Outgoing Players Jae'sean Tate 27 year old, 6-4, 230 lb F from Ohio State 7.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.2 apg in 20.7 minutes in 2022-2023 Boban Marjanovic 34 year old, 7-4, 290 lb C from KK Vrsac Swisslion (Serbia) 2.7 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.2 apg in 4.0 minutes in 2022-2023
You could do most of this as one big 5 team trade, but let's break it down to keep it simple. Move 1: Trade b/w HOU - CLE CLE: Tate HOU: Osman + 2023 CLE SRP Move 2: cut Boban Move 3: Trade b/w HOU - PHO - MIL long rumored so finally happens PHO: Gordon (HOU) + Ibaka (MIL) MIL: Crowder (PHO) HOU: Saric (PHO) + Ingles (MIL) + 2023 PHO FRP (top 10 protected) + 2023 MIL SRP + 2024 MIL SRP Move 4: Trade b/w HOU - ORL ORL: Saric + 2023 MIL SRP + 2024 MIL SRP + 2024 SRP (lowest of GSW or BRK) HOU: Bamba Move 5: Trade 3: HOU - DET DET: Ingles + 2023 PHO FRP + 2023 CLE SRP HOU: Hayes Hayes - Scoot - Nix Scoot could also start, but I think he would be phenomenal in a 6th man role Thrilla - GBird - JayGup Tari - KMJ - Osman Bari - Garuba - sign UFA Sengawd - Bamba - Bruno Good foundational blocks but can still be Worst for Wemby.
Give up KMJ, Gordon and Bucks pick to bring in Collins. Trade Garuba+Washington 2024 and 2026 Nets picks with top 10 protection for Anuoby.
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -11.7 ppg, -4.9 rpg, and +1.0 apg. Incoming Players Alex Caruso 28 year old, 6-5, 186 lb G from Texas A&M 5.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.3 apg in 24.6 minutes in 2022-2023 Outgoing Players Boban Marjanovic 34 year old, 7-4, 290 lb C from KK Vrsac Swisslion (Serbia) 2.8 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 0.2 apg in 4.2 minutes in 2022-2023 Josh Christopher 21 year old, 6-5, 215 lb G from Arizona State 3.2 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.7 apg in 8.2 minutes in 2022-2023 K.J. Martin 22 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from IMG Academy (Florida) 11.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 25.3 minutes in 2022-2023
