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John Wall opens up about his time in Houston

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mr Woods, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. krosfyah

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    Actually, sounds like Stone is the problem, not Silas. Silas was overuled by Stone in playing Wall. So it's not much of a leap to say that all of Silas' coaching decisions have a thumb on the scale.

    Everybody wants to throw Silas under the bus he's just following instructions.

    Fans need to chill out this year. It's all going to plan. The real judgement begins next season. Maybe you disagree with the plan, but that is another matter. The issue isn't incompetence or if incompetence is a factor, that is secondary ...at best.

    Checking out. Not much of interest happens until the lottery.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Not playing Wall was the right choice, if it was Stone overruling Silas, that's just another reason Silas needs to be gone. A competent coach would have made that obvious choice themselves.
     
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    I agree that not playing Wall was the right play but casting him aside like garbage was just such an unprofessional way to do it. If you don't want a guy around your team, then waive him. I also agree with tanking but the way they're doing it is just so chaotic. There's no focus on teaching. It's like the organization put 3 years on auto-play and will check back in last season. And I see no reason to question anything Wall says about the Rockets. We weren't the focus of the interview. He didn't come there to talk about the Rockets, it was a tiny clip in a long video. They asked, and he answered honestly.
     
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  4. apollo33

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    It was Walls choice to not play because he didn't want to come off the bench. It's not like we shunned all veterans, Eric Gordon, DJ, hell even Schroeder all got a ton of minutes that season
     
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    BUST YA **** OPEN BEATS.
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me if the Spurs go on a late season losing streak to get in the bottom three and end up getting the #1 pick.
     
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  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Okay, but what do you do with a guy like that who is paid WAY too much to trade, WAY too detrimental to the growth of your young players and at basketball in general to play heavy minutes, AND won't agree to a smaller role?

    If he wanted out, he could have accepted a buyout, he didn't want that, he wanted to rob the team for every dollar left in his contract....so he had to sit out. It's not like he was going to be playing significant minutes anywhere else anyway....he's terrible at basketball AND he can't stay healthy.

    I get why he's salty about it given his embarrassingly low BBIQ and chucker mentality that has him believing he's still a good player, but that's not something that moves me.

    The Rockets' rebuild has been kind of a disaster thus far. They tanked to get who they hoped would be a star and missed. That player being kind of terrible ensured another tanking season...they then picked another raw player who is REALLY struggling thus far and so we've got another tanking season. It's annoying, but this is what happens when you miss on top picks. Hopefully we do a better job in this next draft.
     
  8. daywalker02

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    It's different coming off the bench like Manu and finishing games from 8-10 minutes as 2nd string garbage boy.

    We don't know what's what, for all you could care Stone didn't seem to like the Wall move, it is very confusing.

    I can only suspect that he doesn't like Wall's potent mouth speaking to the rookies, dude could have been a TV personality.

    He is spitting words like there is no tomorrow.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah... but John Wall is more of a 3rd string garbage tier player, so why should that offend him?

    He should jump at the chance to touch the court at all.
     
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    No, Stephen Silas is certainly part of the problem.

    He lacks any back bone, he isn't respected by the players and he lets the younger players do whatever they want to do.

    He needs to go.
     
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    No wonder Silas looks depressed all the time. He see's the obvious. I would of quit already. **** that ****. Only to be booted after the season. He definitely deserves some blame but his hands are tied and loosened at times.
     
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    No one needs to panic. The kids are acting like kids. They will bring a free agent and probably package a couple in trade for another star...
     
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    The "not panic" crowd has obviously not been paying attention to teams with similar chaotic front offices and owners. I don't want to be those teams, I want to be competitive again.
     
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    lol. Patrick decides to pop in
     
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  15. Bobbythegreat

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    No you wouldn't have. You'd have kept your mouth shut and collected those checks just like Wall and Silas because you'd know you'd have no chance of getting them anywhere else.
     
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    That's where the miscommunication stems from.

    The Rockets as always went one way, praising Wall at first and try to pair him with Boogie, Wood and Harden.

    Then they discarded him like trash.

    The same happened with Carmelo.

    Even if they are trash, they don't deserve to be treated like on and off girlfriends... all grown veterans and former All Stars.

    That is why teams with better PR representation are more respected, no wonder the Rockets are discarded by the media.
     
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    That was in a desperation effort to keep Harden, when it failed, and it was obvious that John Wall still was absolutely terrible at basketball....that his big talk about dedicating himself to mastering the 3 point shot was all BS....just like damn near everything he says, they moved on to a different strategy.

    Saying they discarded trash like trash isn't a bad thing. That's how you are supposed to treat trash. He was EXCEPTIONALLY well compensated, so it's not like they really did him dirty while he was robbing them.

    Catering to has beens like Boogie, Wall, and Melo is what you'd expect joke franchises to do in order to put butts in seats. The Rockets prioritized their young players over that BS, and they were right to do so.
     
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    Rushing the development of KPJ with no veteran mentor and no backup was a bad decision. KPJ played his best as a 2 guard next to Wall. This is an organizational mistake.
     
  19. daywalker02

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    That is exactly another reason why the Rockets' overall image dipped over the years.

    Too much desperation, too many silly incidents ..... not knowing how to fix all that PR mess.

    No fixer.

    Cycle continues, the worse your PR gets, the more 'over the hill' player sign with you. (or be traded to you)

    You are only the sloppy second the better players sign with.

    Those players bad mouth you... Rinse repeat.
     
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  20. jiggyfly

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    Yeah right now but after how many years?

    And how many draft assets?

    My point is that people thinking we should be done rebuilding after this draft are deluding themselves and it seems you think its guranteed that 3 of these guys are generational talents, I guess you think there are 3 Bancheros in this draft? Even with getting a Banchero they still have much more all around talent than the rockets have because of years drafting in the lottery.

    My point is drafting top 5 multiple years is not a guarantee of anything and I think people are vastly overrating the talent this team currently has.

    I don't know if there is Banchero in this draft because Banchero is big IQ guy and do we know if Wembley and the other top 2 are not more flash than substance, I mean just look at what Green and Cunningham were supposed to be.

    My other point is that a lot of people seem to want to do what Sacramento is doing and sign an all star type and build around them.
     

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