Now that was a waste of server space... at least I am trying to discuss basketball with my posts and not being a forum facist. Apparently, there are enough replies on here idicating that there are people here who are discussing the topic. I think it is a valid topic to discuss... no one here is being hysterical... I never said that WE ARE NEVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING, I just said, what **ck is up with the slow progress and letting talent slip through the cracks.
I think that most of these posts are not actually DISCUSSING anything.. they are just saying how this is panic talking and to relax
Ok. Everyone just chill. Getting T-Mac is great for this franchise. We may not win a title next year or the year after but this is a great situation to build on. I check ESPN every day hoping to see the Rockets sign someone good. I understand the frustration. But let's not blast the organization in July for not getting a good free agent. If October comes then it's a different story. Even if we don't get anyone good I am so glad that the contracts of Glen Rice, Moochie Norris, and Kelvin Cato are gone. We are buidling for the future. Now if we could just get rid of Matt Maloney's contract.
I'm afraid I have to disagree with your opinion that Houston is willing to just settle for mediocrity. If anything, management (with the blessing of Les) has an impressive record of gambling and going for it. -How many teams make a huge trade for a future All-Star the year after they win the NBA championship (Drexler). -How about deal for one of the best PFs in the last 2 decades (Barkley) a few years later to help out an aging Drexler & Hakeem? -Or deal for a 6-time champion, Top 50 SF confused: ) to give us a shot to get back to the promised land (Pippen)? -Or deal for the #2 pick (Francis) in the draft to try to ensure that the Rockets wouldn't have to go through major rebuilding (a la Bulls)? -How about dealing 3 1st round picks to draft arguably the best talent in the draft (Griffin)? -How about being the 1st team to ever draft an realatively un-established center from Asia (Yao) despite fears of even being able to pry him away from his country's stronghold? -And now, dealing away 3/5 of a playoff team starting line-up to get a Top 5 player (McGrady) and try to take this team to the next level? I'm not saying all these moves worked out, but the point is that since Les has taken over, we have done everything but settle for mediocrity. I know you're point is that we don't follow these moves up, but Rome wasn't built in one day. I think the management critics take these moves for granted because we all largely supported each of these moves, but that doesn't mean they're easy to make (look around). Secondly, filling in the smaller holes after a big move is not as easy as it seems to the armchar GMs on this board (including myself). We may like a player, but we're competing against 30 some-odd other teams for those same productive players with reasonable contracts. The take home point of this summer has been that to get a targeted free agent early in the game, you basically have be willing to overpay. I, for one, am glad that we've practiced restraint in this crazy market. I'm confident that we'll still end up with some decent players who fir JVG's system, and we will be thankful to management later for not putting us in salary cap heel forever. Otherwise, we'd end up looking like the Knicks! !
Good post, moonnumack! The orginization made a BOLD move this offseason which made us a team to rekin with now and, especially, for many years to come. I too am fustrated at not seeing any results the past three weeks but I am glad that they are not making a stupid move just to appease the fans' need in bringing in certain players. I have faith, now more than ever, that the team will make good, sound moves till the season starts. I wouldn't be surprised if they have something in the works we have no idea about. They did say pretty boldly at TMac's press conference that they were certainly not done improving there team this year. So, as fustrating as it may be, just sit back and believe we will have a complete, competive team and hopefully we will all be rewarded for the wait.
with 3 future 1st round picks, we could get kmart now haha. anyways i agree with most of the ppl on this forum so i guess it is pointless to post, but i will anyways. the off season has just started... dont worry! we made a couple moves at pgs that would have been a good fit. i felt derek fisher wouldnt have been bad except he has already won three rings, so getting a crapload of money doesnt sound so bad right now. brent barry went to the spurs for LESS MONEY. i mean what can we do about that? it was obvious he rather play with duncan and co. im not sure how strong we went for troy, but playing with kg, spree, and cassell isnt like hell... still a very good team. i dont think CD is doing anything wrong. i dont him overpaying for dfish (we will just have more forums in a yr or so full of ppl complaining, just like how we whined about rice, mo, cato, etc contracts...just like how we are STILL paying maloney...) lets not start freaking out until mid sept okay?
As long as there will be thread bashing the manangement for doing nothing (handing out big contract complaints i'm fine, saying our management is too idle is just meesed up) I will continue to repost the same post.
What pace? What do you mean you "guarantee mediocrity?" Based on what?! What do you propose they have done? They just got done trading 3/5th of the starting lineup. I'll respect your opinion if you tell me what they should have done differently this offseason. They made an offer to Brent Barry and lost out on him. San Antonio was a more attractive destination - no shame there, they're perennial contenders. Tell me what moves the Rockets should have made. Did you want Brian Cardinal for $39million? Or was it Adonal Foyle? Or maybe paying Derek Fisher $7mill/yr until he's 37 years old was the move you were looking for?
Oops looks like I stepped on some nerve here. To tell you a truth, this the internet kiddie. If you are not up to being called a chicken I don't think you can survive elsewhere on the net. You are absolutely right they are allowed to have their oppinions. That fact doesn't prevent them from being a bunch of chicken running around in despair with their heads cut off. I guess I'm also allowed an oppinion to have an opinion on others. If they walk like a duck, whack like a duck, then I call them....duh... a duck. If you think calling what you see as being an a$$, then you can choose from being blind or being an a$$. So which one are you? Why don't you just chill out and stop being a self righteous punk? I asked a question about a poster being a paranoia chicken and people ask me to cut off my head? You sure do your forum facist impersonation well. I think we'd improve from last year. Not sure of if we are title contender now. Considering the fact we've been mediocre for years, I call this offseaon a gain simply because I like watching T-Mac play more than the guys we traded away. Okie dokie. Sorry I didn't realize your other moniker might be Rivaldo3146. My advice is if you are afraid of presenting your oppinion because some one asked if you are a chicken, you might want to check this out: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...f=sr_1_3/102-6045257-8388942?v=glance&s=books Happy shopping.
What? Still no point guard or backup 4/5? Something could change, but if it doesn't y'all are going to Luese a bunch of games. And picking up Osterfat has actually been discussed? Sounds like a desperate situation to me … Nick the Prick with JackGrady would be the perfect solution for the Rox though: sort of a slightly better replication of Francis/Mobley (read: Yao still doesn't get the ball). Charlie's coming to the 4th Ward (book it). Maybe Bushwick Bill is available on the waiver wire …
Wow! You seem like such a "downer". It says that you're a contributing member. Where do you contribute, the "Pessimist Club"? Hopefully, you won't be a member of that club once the season starts and the ROX starts winning.....
Please, you must not read alot of posts on here then, cause people have been mentioning Barry on here since last season. Once again, Read some of the threads!!!!! alot of them are ranking the Rox as 4th or 5th seeds and even thinking they will make it really far into the playoffs. I know the truth hurts, but someone's gotta be realistic. This team isn't going to be a champion for 2 to 3 years down the road which is fine but you guys are still in extacy b/c of T-Mac that you don't care about the season and you will be in for a rude awakening. I never said that Barry, Fisher and Hudson were stars nor did I imply that the Rockets need to sign a bunch of stars. We need quality reserves cause Lue, Pike, Weatherspoon, and others aren't the answer.
Champions are not born....They are created. This is just another step in CD's materpiece. This might be his final attempt at achieving greatness, so he is going to try to do it right this time. So far, it looks like CD is making the correct choices.
Many will think I'm wrong, but with or without additions to the team, this team is much better. Why? Look at who left and who entered the scene. The Rockets, even with Lue/McGrady backcourt has a 2:1 to ratio which is good especially playing in Van Gundy's low possession system. Howard for cato is also a no brainer. Its true Cato blks shots and Howard is more of a position defender, but how many team will leave Howard open and dare him to take that shot vs Cato. many will think the defense will be worse, but i think it will actually be the same or better. Lue is quick and can apply full court pressure while Mcgrady will not get posted up and if need be can hold most small forwards. I think what CD is doing is what he should have done on alot of players that are role players. Had he let the market set itself, Taylor would be at about 5.5 or 6m as opposed to 8m. The same can be said with Cato's contract and a few others. Ideally, i would like to have a player like Jason Terry and have Lue as a backup. If the Rockets can't trade for Terry, then signing someone like Damon Jones at a 3 or 4 yr deal at 3m a yr would be fine. As far as backup pf/c, we're talking about bench players. Guys like Mihm,Clark and others will be there for low budget signings. Many will disagree, but having 2 players who are top 2 at their position make avarything else a little easier no matter who else you have. the team they have assembled now is more offensive and more team like than last yr. McGrady will have no problems scoring 25ppg while Ming gets 20ppg. When the games are close, you can put those 2 in pick and role and get a quality possession from either while both shoot good ft's. Personally , i think SA,Minny and Sac are better than Houston in the west,but after that the Rockets should be right there. This team now is closer to the top 3 than it was last yr. Everything will be ok.
What a lame response to a simple yes/no question. My point was simple and understandable to anyone with an IQ over 50, but in case you can't answer my simple question I'd gladly take the time to rephrase it in more simplicity in order to, as you said, encourage and reward stupidity in this society. Are you being paranoid like a chicken with its head cut off? Can you be that kind of person? Geez, I start to worry about the America's future.
Nobody in this league has the luxury of patience to put together a championship team. Teams can go from being in the NBA finals to rebuilding projects overnight. CD needs to strike while the iron is hot and use the excitement of the Yao/T-Mac duo to attract players now. I understand mayurpatel's frustration, you would think that after a blockbuster trade like the Tmac deal, the media would be calling us clearcut winners in this years free agency but they're not. See Mark Stein's link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=1841190 Can we trade CD for Joe Dumars and the TE?
My point exactly, thank you tiger. Look, I'm not being a pessimist, I'm just saying we need to act NOW and not wait till all the talent gets watered down and then SETTLE on someone. That is the worst thing we can do. Oh, and for you Panda, I'd recommend something off of Amazon for you to: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/...507846 Are all your other 2000+ posts filled with childish remarks and horrible grammar as well? And "the America's" future will be fine... don't be a drama queen, which apparently I know you can't help. This BBS has nothing to do with "the America's" future.
Im still waiting to see just exactly which one of the halfass players with HUGE contracts the thread starter thinks we should have gotten.... still waiting....... still waiting....... I dont feel the need to restate what has already been elegantly stated already...so I wont. btw......just cause its your opinion doesnt mean it is worth reading. especially when logic and the facts dont support it...and it is every other member's right to call you out on it...you want to post crap with no repercussions....go back to the crappy ESPN boards...most of us expect better thoughtout posts here...and if you dont...get your asbestos underwear out...cause the flames will be a-commin... fact of life on the internet.....deal with it. btw.......outstanding to see two good posters make their returns... welcome back ROCKET and LeGrouper Ive been taking your name in vain for ages in chat.... R2K slaps Guest19834 around with a large LeGrouper
