Or maybe, just maybe these kids are just that bad at basketball ... and nothing Silas can say or do will change that.
Henderson and others could be good; but currently not generational prospects. How good is ignite at teaching fundamentals, because he might not get it if he comes to the Silas regime. Gentle reminder that 14% at Wemby, means... 86% chance that we won't get him. That's pretty high. If another team gets Wemby and things pan out... when Rockets are ready to move up, that's another star that could block your path to the championship. --- Walk and chew gum at the same time: safe to say this team is likely to remain in bottom 3, but now that you're in the bottom, what else are you going to do? Are the players' development satisfactory? Vision should be to try to work with what you have: develop / trade ... etc. If we're lucky to get a good prospect next draft; fine, but focus on what you have.
Whether they are good or bad, it is purely chaotic now, I am not sure he can clean it up completely as people suggested he would in a year or so.
Contrary to what is written and believed here, this bald man is very visionary and sneaky. He doesn't fire Silas because as long as Silas stays in office, the criticism is focused on Silas but he knows well that if he fires Silas and the failure continues with the new coach, the criticism will be directed at him and his own incompetence will be on the agenda. He doesn't want to be in the hot seat and so he doesn't dare to fire Silas.
Chief, are you understanding this? It doesn't matter if you think it's horseshit. It's time to look at the season as though you believe the strategy is horseshit and Stone/Silas/Fertitta/KPJ think it's gold and what's going to happen is what they want and it's not going to change for the next 41 games. They are happy with the odds that you're describing and they're betting that they will be right and you will be wrong. That's what they think. Just reign in your frustration man, it's not worth it. You won't enjoy the season and it will be for reasons you can't control and that won't change. You can enjoy the season. Ask yourself how come there are people who can enjoy the season during this "horseshit" strategy? Why can they do it and you can't, even if they agree with you? It's only because they went like "Ok, it's f*cked but that's over with, let's see how their bet turns out next season and let's not miss out on the silver linings this season". You can do it.
Your perspective is totally legitimate, but they're going to bet on themselves. Now that that's done with, let's find out if THEIR plan works and they actually put together some semblance of a winning playoff team next season. I hope that they're right and I hope that we are wrong, because that's what would be best for us. It would be great if by some miracle or through the players' fortitude they're able to iron out the bad habits next season and we go on to the playoffs. If it doesn't work out, we can all sh*t on them together at the end of next season and they will certainly fire Silas and if the next coach is not good, then they will fire Stone. Our big men will be in their 3rd/4th seasons so they will be coming into their own properly and we'll have some reinforcements via other teams' picks and our cap space. In the end, our Rockets will be fine, we are in a good spot with the sheer amount of assets and cap flexibility we have. Keep your hopes up.
Agree with this to an extent, but since this thread was made, and other similar view points had bubbled up. (other threads and discourse on RocketsLive) It means people are seeing through it. Silas as meat shield could be temporary, as our pitchfork is starting to point to Stone instead of just the fall guy, who is Silas. Even if Kelly Iko prints a recent article that says they still believe in Silas, sure the org is signaling to hold firm, but they can only do that for so long before fans call for the GM's head.
Haven't read thread so as not to influence my opinion, so this may have already been said many times. Stone wants to add a star. Then use draft, FA, and/or trades to add a couple more. Once that is done, mold team around those stars. He likely expects hits and misses and is not putting a strict schedule on the rebuild (though, draft pick status will likely affect how they run the team that doesn't conflict too much with the above).
I don't think so, most just see it as the most logical means to an end. It's not likely you fall off the mediocrity treadmill into star that can carry your team .... expecting lightning to strike twice? The odds are miniscule. It's not likely you find Giannis outside the lottery .... and Houston sports damn sure aint that lucky. We all hate losing. We tolerate it in hopes of those top 3 picks that can turn your franchise from 20 win cellar dweller to perennial contender .... And none of your alternatives are palatable, being stuck in mediocrity with very little hope of getting one of those franchise altering players or a fringe play in team that's just going to get curb stomped by a 1 seed in the opening round & pick 17th.
NewsFlash! This is what the pro tank side understands clearly - and we have a solution, picking early in the draft. The Anti-Tankers have no solution aside from lucking into a player.
Huh? No, I am saying we might be better by having those guys and then picking somebody like Wagner, Moody, Duarte or Murphy. Where we talking about the value of the #2 pick in a trade? what's telling about me not talking about something that was not part of the discussion?
The second we didn’t sign a vet backup point guard to help mentor KPJ & Green and announced we were going with Nix it was pretty obvious Stone intended on tanking That’s letting me know he was going to let KPJ & Green half ass develop and allow the bench to guarantee the tank
That only holds up for so long though, at some point it becomes an indictment on the GM if they still keep a coach who's achieving very little for the team/players.
Not sure if Stone should get credit for a genius tank move by playing Nix. He believed in Nix. I was disturbed by his comments about Nix well before this season started.
Better for what time period? Would we be better this season? Sure but what about several years? This is about maximizing your chances of acquiring a franchise player … and even if you take the route with the bests odds, it may still fail. The point was you are only viewing things through the lens of player development and not thinking about the possible ways we can get better.
Stone is not getting fired and Patrick knows what's up. Stone is not going to go out there and acting like KPJ+Nix are stars - sticking his neck out like that - when he knows it's going south which would look very bad for him. The way Stone talks about KPJ is not comensurate with giving a contract that is only guaranteed for one year and $15m. When you throw in the 3 team options, you see that it's even lower value than an outright one year extension (KPJ's agent is an idiot btw). It's all planned guys. It's a super professional tank job, even all the media for it was planned and scheduled. They're all quiet, including the owner who is known to have a big mouth. One you would expect from a corporate asset manager that jumped at the opportunity to work for an owner that the previous GM, Coach and Franchise player all ran away from. A GM that would accept reporting to the owner's son. Tilman would be so loud if he wasn't expecting this to happen lol. Not talking to the media is exactly what a guy like him would do. Why say anything other than in a calculated press release or if prompted? I don't think it's about him being risk averse as much as it is about him being corporate minded about the media. Puff pieces, planting leaks with Woj/Shams, press releases, it's just what you would expect if you hired someone out of a law or banking firm. Side note: I'm just now realizing - from scanning his wiki - back in the day I licensed a branch of the company Stone used to work for before the Rockets. Cool coincidence.
