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What is Stone’s vision?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Jan 11, 2023.

  1. jerryclark

    jerryclark Member

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    Stone is literally what you get if you gave a bum an nba team

    Hoping a praying to win the lottery
     
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  2. liveguy

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    Rebuilding through draft is a slow/steady process.

    Just gotta deal with the downside with vision for the upside that will happen.

    No one will be complaining if they draft Wemby or Scoot.

    The real clock starts after the 2023 draft.

    This has always been the plan.
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol…. Go find a hobby.
     
  4. jerryclark

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    triggered
     
  5. dmoneybangbang

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    Yea… that was the post I replied to.

    Why is the bottoming out that was always going to last into this season triggering for you?

    You and others just need a hobby until the off-season for you mental health or continue to be triggered by Stone…
     
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  6. jerryclark

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    the nba lottery is just a charity system for impoverished trash teams

    Its not a grand plan when every gm understands what tanking is
     
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  7. jerryclark

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    team is garbage and an embarrassment. Thats just the truth

    Dont be mad at me about it
     
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  8. liveguy

    liveguy Member

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    oh…ok
     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    Im trying to help your mental health….

    Go find a hobby since clearly you ain’t built for a rebuild.
     
  10. jerryclark

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    wow you are built different!

    You have all the time in the world to watch a trash team. You are so special!
     
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  11. jerryclark

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    Guys we have a badass! He knows how to watch a garbage team
     
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  12. daywalker02

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    Since the Rox are grasping at straws in this case grasping at Top 2 picks I am not going to go against the grain.

    It is the only positive I could think of.
     
  13. dmoneybangbang

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    And what are the alternatives?

    Pretend we could have kept Allen (and paid him), kept LaVert, and then still kept the #2 pick? Retool from there?

    Pretend that player development would have lifted us where…. To play-in level?
     
  14. jiggyfly

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    Ok

    If I told you we could go 5 with only a 14% chance of winning a playoff series and probably have to tank again and get better, would you be happy with that?

    If this young talent is so good, the wins will. Come naturally anyway, I have no idea why people think young talent can't improve if we are losing.

    Would you be happy being The Bobcats, Kings or the Knicks the next 4 or 5 years?
     
  15. Aruba77

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    Best I can tell, Stone isn’t focused on fit; he’s focused on collecting talent. That’s just from looking at the results. I have no idea if rumors about Wood figuring into decisions about Jarret Allen or Mobley are true.

    So if we assume his strategy is to just collect a bunch of talent, taking as many swipes at the draft before 2024, one could argue while we may not have been aggressive in trading to increase the quality of our picks (beyond the Sengun draft night trade), we’ve added some good talent through the draft. We’ve probably exceeded the limit of how many prospects we can actually develop.

    so taking shots on young talent regardless of fit has been his approach and I think that makes sense. But he hasn’t done the other stuff that makes the strategy work. Namely creating pathways for development - consolidating around our best players, making moves to improve the quality of our picks or assets, and building a strong, accountable culture.

    I have no idea what his vision is. I just know what his approach has been.
     
  16. jiggyfly

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    Has he actually taken the best players available at thier draft slots?

    The jury is just starting deliberations on that verdict.

    It's amazing that people on one hand say these players are young and need time but then say we definitely picked the best available, how do you know that?
     
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    If people are not happy with the state of the rebuild they probably think we would be better off with LaVert and Allen than the #2 pick.

    We don't even know if Green is that much better than Levert, at least he is cheaper, but that will change pretty soon.
     
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    We are complaining and Green was the Scoot of that draft.
     
  19. daywalker02

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    Morey was communicating a lot more to the long serving fans, to the public.

    He was being extremely transparent while Stone does his job, closes the book, and goes on with his family.

    Nothing wrong with that but fans do have questions.

    He only answers through the Chronicle or around Draft time and at the start of the season.
     
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  20. Mr Woods

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    This. And if it turned out we didn’t pick the best available, people will double down anyways. “Impossible to know Barnes/Franz would be better than Jalen”, or “every GM would have taken Jabari over Mathurin/Ivey”.

    No. Front offices have loads of data on these prospects. There’s no excuse. It’s their job to do their homework, and project how these prospects will turn out. You can’t just pick the consensus guy on mock boards. Both Tatum and Brown were seen as slight reaches where Boston picked them. This is what the elite front offices do.
     
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