In general I’d love for people to share what they think his strategy and ideas are for this team’s future, how he drafts, what he values, etc. Maybe with quotes if you have time and like to present a case. Now why I wonder is 2 reasons: holding onto Gordon, drafting Josh, Sengun & Garuba in relation to Silas’ strategy. I am legitimately wondering that with our focus on spreading out the court for our wings and Stone’s apparent hand in doubts about Sengun’s future, why did we draft him and Garuba? Why not Trey Murphy lll with one of those? Was it really BPA? Did he believe Sengun would shoot threes better? And why is Silas now saying he shouldn’t shoot those. What has changed since last year that now Sengun is under all this pressure, even Garuba passed over at first in favour of Bruno? Is it because we now shifted focus to our back court to flourish? Stone must have an opinion and a hand in this surely, so really trying to understand what he’s doing, his vision is and his plan beyond this season? Is it solely Silas deciding to keep playing Gordon out of position? Or actually Stone telling him to showcase Gordon? Is keeping Gordon happy or Silas strategy more important than Martin, Tari and our team’s development and cohesion? I am seriously not sure what we’re trying to do here. Even if the end game is losing to get a high draft pick, you don’t sabotage youth’s growth and building good habits. Cannot just play a certain way now, only to change it w/ Wemby, Scoor or a Thompson brother. So again, what are we doing? Still figuring out who we want as our franchise guy and then adapting our strategy accordingly? Seeing if KPJ and or Green can be that guy? Are we just showcasing Sengun? So many questions, hope some of you can provide answers or at least a hint at one
He believes that getting another top pick is more valuable than what you would lose by being a poorly equipped and minimally organized team. So many people are banging their head on the wall all season about something that is not a mistake. It's intentional, it has bad effects, and he's making a bet - right or wrong - that it won't matter in the end. He's betting that getting Scoot or Wemby is more valuable than the possibility that you have to beat some bad habits out of the previously drafted players or slowing down their development by X%. I know your blood is boiling, but it doesn't matter if you or I agree. This is what is going to happen regardless. There are people constantly pointing at the byproducts of this strategy as though the front office has no idea what's going on. They don't understand that Stone knew it would happen this way and before the season ever started the coach and owner and GM all approved it. That's why to those people Silas doesn't seem bothered enough by what's going on, because they're not looking at it through his actual eyes. They are totally aware of changes they could make that can make this core perform to its optimal level. They know they can get vets, they know they can prioritize players based on winning, they know they can be stricter about offensive and defensive execution, they know they can bench players for boneheaded plays to make an example of them. They know all the things you think are brilliant suggestions. They don't want it. They don't want your idea. This is it, this is the team. Don't watch if you can't separate your emotions from facts. Practice some acceptance: the GM is highly incentivized to reduce wins and not spend an hour or a dollar fixing anything. Please don't @ me with all the reasons you think tanking and losing culture is a bad idea. It's boring and it's done, over, finished. You are stuck in the summer of 2021 and everyone has moved on. There's no changing that, there's not going to be a change of heart halfway through taking a hatchet to your team. If you're able to stop projecting and just observe what is going on, you will see it clearly.
I like your takes, you're usually able to observe and put it into words eloquently. However, I do feel you are putting your own emotion and frustration with people's ideas of the current state of the team into it and that's uncalled for. Also a bit ironic and hypocritical. And to think they are consistent if this is all true is then the next question. Why a short leech with Sengun and Jabari and not with KPJ and Green? Don't answer if you are going to put this tone in your response, because that will only lead to other people responding as you just did. You know your tone, the way you phrase things and especially the "don't @ me" will cause exactly the type of responses you claim are pointless right? It's a shame because you make good points, but it's not some profound truth that is not up for debate or discussion. Please people focus on that and the question at hand.
waiting on Jalen Green to go on a 6 games streak of hot shooting from 3 so he can show us he was right all along... 3pt shooting is such a fools gold!
My tone is my tone man, it varies based on what I'm discussing. I'm not comfortable with someone telling me how to speak, so don't do that please. I'm not frustrated by people's view of tanking (and banging their head against the wall for it), I'm ridiculing it. We started tanking 2.5 years ago and there are fans right now saying we should stop it because we're losing too much. They can't understand that 3 consecutive losing seasons in a row is on Stone's vision board and Silas knew exactly how that was going to look. That's why they're not acting with urgency. Cause everything is going according to plan. Firstly, that's a loaded question filled with an assumption. I've heard of this excessive leash, but I've never seen it. Jabari is a rookie who started the season poorly, his minutes are not going to be big like any similar rookie and his minutes have gradually increased. In the first half of last season, he sat Jalen Green more than people would like. Last season, he sat Sengun way more than this season. Sengun fouls a lot and he's a C who doesn't play good defense, it's completely standard for players with those qualities to receive inconsistent minutes because those deficiencies are compounding (similar to KPJ's playmaking). They affect the other 4 players a lot. In the big picture of things, he gives more minutes to prospects that are more ready to compete at the NBA level based on HIS assessment of the players. For example there are people who think Sengun is the best player on the roster. This is totally irrelevant, it's obvious that Silas and most humans don't believe that. KPJ is a different situation. His leash should be similar to Sengun's but there's a big difference here. He was given a new contract and the keys to the team by Silas' boss so he is going to play him to keep his job. He's not going to do it passive-aggressively, he's going to do everything he can like a good little employee. The only reason Silas is here is to get a shot at trying to make the playoffs next season. He's known that since the day Brooklyn traded us their picks. He's not going to bump heads with the GM over this and lose his job when he knows full well, his GM will fire him and leave him with the worst coaching record of any coach ever just because he didn't make it through the rebuild. Silas' career is f'ed if Stone fires him now. Further explaining the rotation confusion: there will always be lots of fans who don't understand the rotation of their favorite sports team. That's on every sports board and twitter and instagram account and Youtube channel in the world for any sports team even those competing for titles. The presence of that confusion doesn't mean something's wrong, it just means the coach has an opinion of their own and also see some things in practice/off court that fans don't see. Stone's mindset is cold-blooded big fish hunting. There's no feelings. He will tell someone he loves them if that person helps him tank. He will fire Silas for not complying even if it destroys his career. All that matters is the big fish. He's an asset manager, all he sees is big ticket items. He doesn't care about excuses like "I would've been a star player but I was a little too fragile and the culture derailed me". He doesn't care about that player (and neither do I frankly). Max FA's. Top picks. Investing minutes in your biggest bets. Those are the things he cares about, everything else is peripheral to him.
You all need to chill. This team could have 5+ more wins if they cared about winning this season and acquired a couple of mediocre veterans. The Rockets are the youngest team in the league by far.
Stone has been pretty clear on his plan. Tank for high picks, BPA (in their assessment) regardless of fit, develop individual skills, don’t endanger cap space by taking on bad contracts. Start to consider fit and signing vets after this year. Nothing new here other than fan disappointment which is to be expected and I’m sure anticipated. They have been successful in amassing a great deal of young talent and they have another top pick on the way. Re-building takes time and patience and avoiding the mistake of getting on the mediocre treadmill by panicking about fan reaction.
I sure hope there's a method to Stone's madness, i.e. 2T4VW, because if not and his vision is SO bad that he actually envisions KPJ as a franchise guy, then we're truly screwed. With the HH holding the keys, a nice guy smiling on the bench, a blind man at the helm and an owner on his yacht, this "rebuild" is going to take A LOT longer than anticipated. Go Rox!
The Rockets aren't an NBA basketball team, they are a collection on sentient assets. I don't necessarily agree with this strategy, but it is what it is. This offseason we will (or at least should) have a clear view of what Stone wants to do in regards to winning.
No we are not the youngest team, we are one of the youngest. Please stop spreading misinformation. https://en.hispanosnba.com/teams/comparison The funny fact is we are 3rd in weight according to this data.
Bruh... Even Boban is included in this data. The Rockets are effectively the youngest team in the league in terms of minute distribution and it's not even close. Without EG, this is literally a college basketball team.
Nah, i need to see the data I know that we are young but we cannot excuse lack of growth or being disorganized based on that. Excuses are like butt chicks. Everyone has a pair no matter what lol.
It was always going to be premeditated tanking which would follow with a FA/trade frenzy and then the cherry on top will be the coach that takes the youngsters into the playoffs and beyond. This much should be somewhat obvious to everyone by now. The way everything unfolded to be 2 years removed from a once in a lifetime generational player who spoiled us to now having a whole roster filled with young, exciting talent I think its as good as you could hope for when starting from scratch. Not all of the players will stick, but I think Stone has done a bang up job so far when being able to live with the fact that these guys wanted to lose on purpose in order to accumulate the talent pool necessary to be able to sift through and keep the best of the bunch. Stone in the draft has done about as well as you could expect. The next phase will be how he handles the cap space to bring in talent and the ability to find the right coach that will LEAD this team into the playoffs. His body of work is still in phase 1.
Apparently his vison includes completely sacrificing a year of development for the young guys to really incompetent coaching to help increase the slim chance of landing the top pick.
That is the whole problem and point here, the pieces do not really fit well together. I can't really see Tilman paying for a costly coach either, it probably has to be a budget or at least mid salary dude.
