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Mid season evaluation

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Nook, Jan 10, 2023.

  1. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

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    That's just bullshit and lets me know that it's a waste continuing a convo with you.
     
  2. Nook

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    I think that the Rockets assistants are good, but I know that they do not have free reign over what is emphasized and how everything is structured. Right now, the GM is heavily involved in what is happening during practice and which players play.

    As far as head coaching candidates, if they want to go with a less experienced coach, I would go with Abdelfattah or Jenny Boucek. Otherwise I would target Atkinson or Quin Snyder. I woudn't sleep on Dave Joerger either.
     
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  3. Stephen_A

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    You just told on yourself. Did you actually watch him play or just looked at the numbers. Basketball is more than just numbers. Just ask the 2018 Rockets.
     
  4. daywalker02

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    Stone hasn't shown us he is an active trader, at least not on Morey's level.

    Everyone is untouchable because Stone does not seem to touch them.
     
  5. jiggyfly

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    LOL. Says the guy who argues like he stole something from you or he took your girl.

    It's very telling that you made this personal, hit dog holla.
     
  6. jiggyfly

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    Dude, I have been watching Jrue Holiday since he played at UCLA.

    I see we are now just gaslighting and saying stupid ****.
     
  7. Nook

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    Glass half full on Jabari because I don't expect him to ever carry an offense. I also didn't expect him to ever be able to finish inside... so the fact that he can finish inside is a big deal to me because I am confident the shoot will come in time. He can get 20 a night between transition, finishing inside and hitting 3's... he still can't put the ball on the floor and I doubt he ever will be able to.

    As far as "must picks", a majority of teams would have taken Smith at #3 and about half would have taken Green at #2.
     
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  8. DatRocketFan

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    Mid season evaluation thread getting derailed by a kpj fanboi. Go argue about him somewhere else.
     
  9. Stephen_A

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    I simply stated my point and back up with logic. Your information was inaccurate but yet you still disagreed not citing facts but simply attacking me so far as to say I have an agenda. This makes You argumentative. Anyway fun chatting with you
     
  10. Nook

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    From what I am told the obsession with KPJ is shared by both Stone and Silas. I agree that Stone would have a larger responsibility for it because he is the one that extended KPJ and he is the one that traded for him. As for KPJ, at this point he just doesn't play winning basketball. He does very few of the little things well, and he isn't efficient at the larger things. He isn't a net positive at this point.

    Stone has made a number of roster mistakes, including failing to get a point guard in two drafts.
     
  11. Stephen_A

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    Thats not what you said. You kept referring to numbers not anecdotal evidence or any real analysis. Anyway be well bro
     
  12. kubli9

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    Every time I "show ignored content", there you are going back and forth with someone in incredibly annoying fashion. Chill with the attention whoring. The quote and question troll tactic you use is tired, make your comment and move on.
     
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  13. Nook

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    I have gone down that rabbit hole (scouts/scouting) and I will just say that there are a lot of issues there.... there is a sense of group thinking and there is also a lot of emphasis on numbers without considering how and against whom those numbers came. It was pretty clear that Smith wasn't fluid or confident offensively. He struggled to master his handle and while he shot a high percentage, he was seldom contested from the perimeter. Even his length was overstated, as he isn't that long. Having said that, he looks like he can be an 18/9 or 20/10 type player that can defend well and plays smart.... not a franchise player, but very valuable. He also is naturally competitive, which is a nice contrast to Jalen Green.
     
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  14. DatRocketFan

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    We drafted tyty just to not even give him mins as the back up until just recently.
     
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    If the GM is heavily involved in what goes on in practice and which players play, why does he get zero blame for the most part?

    it’s like he doesn’t even exist, and everything is 100% Silas’s fault
     
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    I think most of us are stuck in the time where gm is responsible for the roster building and its up to the coach to use with what's he given. It's triggering to see silas fawn over kpj bc he's the one distributing the game time mins. Stone also isn't as vocal or has a big presence like Morey so the crowd isn't attacking/critcising him as much
     
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  17. Nook

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    KPJ can and likely will continue to improve as a player and he is going to be a long-term NBA player.

    Having said that, this is Porter's fourth season in the NBA.... and this is Green's second season and Jabarí's first season. There is a huge difference in the development of a player between year 1 or 2 and year 4. If Jabari and Green are the same as they are right now, in two seasons, then they will be busts.

    As far as why KPJ should be a 6th man, he isn't a good point-guard and he isn't terribly efficient. However, he does do somethings well and would likely have more success in the second unit where his inefficiencies are less of a concern.
     
  18. albuster

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    Nice Take. Having done some extensive analysis on the mid-term Rockets, what overall grade would you give them?
     
  19. Nook

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    Do you want the real answer?

    Stone is insulated by Silas.... Stone is the one that has a good relationship with ownership and when the owner gets mad, Stone will throw Silas off the boat and cast the blame on Silas.

    This has already happened to a degree - the owner wasn't happy with Silas last year, and the blame was put on the assistants by Stone and Silas... and they were not brought back.


    Stone I am sure thinks he can survive at least two coaches, and he is very good at internal organizational politics. So unless Tilman gets raging angry, Stone will be back next season.
     
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  20. Reeko

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    Silas has been given a pile of dog sh*t

    Silas isn’t the only one fawning over KPJ…KPJ will likely get every year of his contract guaranteed by Stone, and KPJ at point isn’t just a Silas decision

    Morey brought results…Stone is building the 3x L champions…can’t wait to see what he does with cap space this summer
     

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