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Austin Rivers on KPJ and Jalen: Someone needs to teach them to play the right way

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    https://www.chron.com/sports/rockets/article/austin-rivers-houston-rockets-rebuild-17703794.php

    Quite clearly, the implication is that the current coaching staff is NOT teaching them to play the right way.

    Yes, he says:

    "It’s not on them, it’s not on Kevin to get on Kevin," Rivers said. "And you can’t look at a coach, either. You need your peers. It needs to be someone on the team guiding them through this, and hopefully, they’ll be better for it."

    But...yes, you can look at the coach.
     
  2. YOLO

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    lol at spinning your own narrative into an actual quote.

    "he's implying the coaching staff is not teaching them the right way to play"

    Actual direct quote from rivers "you can't look at a coach"

    You completely disregard that and say yes you can. classic CF's

    newsflash: Rivers quote doesn't actually say what you want it to say. he clearly highlights its vets that they need

    That's his message, plain and simple.
     
  3. RasaqBoi

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    That’s embarrassing.
     
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  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Newsflash: I pointed out that Rivers is being politically correct and not blaming the coach. A coach's son is going to make sure he doesn't explicitly blame another coach...duh.

    Newsflash: I am saying that there is someone whose actual job it is to teach the players to play the right way. And that is the coach.
     
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    nah you didn't. you want it to mean that the coaching staff is the problem from his quote. It isn't. he clearly says what he believes they need. and it's not on the coaching staff. more spinning your own interpretation into it

    Newsflash: you didn't understand his actual quote
     
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    The coaches teach them, they need vets to hold them accountable .. no one on this team is slapping KPJ or Jalen and saying pass the ball.

    Jabari might be the first …. KMJ second

    Listen to post game interviews … Jalen and KPJ can tell you what the other team was doing and how they were supposed to attack it
     
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    Newsflash: I literally quoted that part where he says that you cannot look at the coach.

    Newsflash: I added my own interpretation.

    Newsflash: You didn't understand it.

    Newsflash: It is still the coach's job to make sure the players play the right way.
     
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  9. YOLO

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    yeah you did. then you disregarded it lol

    Rivers: its not on coach

    You: yes its on coach

    LOL

    "It’s not on them, it’s not on Kevin to get on Kevin," Rivers said. "And you can’t look at a coach, either. You need your peers. It needs to be someone on the team guiding them through this, and hopefully, they’ll be better for it."

    Message being they need vets. /discussion.

    all the other stuff you added is your own narrative and opinion that spins his actual quote out of context. aka another lets blame coach thread. If you're confused by this actual quote and taken back by it, it should tell you something. Hint: it isn't a positive one for you personally
     
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    The point is, he is quite clearly saying they are NOT playing the right way. Everyone can see that.

    He then goes and tries to soften the blow by saying it's not their fault, it's not the coaches' fault...it's just because they don't have a veteran like him.

    So he is telling the truth, while covering almost all his bases (the only one who could be pissed off is Gordon, and he knows Gordon doesn't care).

    All of that doesn't change anything about the fact that there is someone whose actual job it is to make sure that players play the right way: The coach.
     
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    Dumbass thing to say. Of course you can and MUST look to coaching staff to provide this kind of guidance and help develop the players. People these days…
     
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    The fact is it’s a combination of factors. There are plenty of young “head honcho” talents who have come into the NBA with a high BBIQ and perfectly capable of playing the right way even if they weren’t yet their best versions of themselves.

    There have also been young teams with only a handful of vets who weren’t competitive yet but had great promise and played the right way.

    And there were plenty teams who were young and had a push over head coach in name only, and they still could play competitive basketball.

    It’s just the combination of so many things going wrong for this team right now that make it sooo bad to watch. There’s not just one thing but a series of dominoes of crap that have fallen over on each other all at once. Everyone from Tillman to the towel boy could probably do better.

    But yes I do think a vet that can also still play would be helpful but still won’t solve all our problems. Stone needs to be the first person in this situation (given Silas is delusional) to say enough is enough and at least start to make some changes. Everyone knows the quote about insanity… has it ever applied in any profession more than that saying applies to this current sports franchise???
     
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    Interesting how your OP just happen to miss something

    “Somebody needs to teach KPJ and Jalen how to play the right way. … They need those vets.

    further elaboration:

    "Those veterans mean everything when you’re young," Rivers said. "They teach you how to run the game, how to control things as guards. Not everything has to be [isolation]. It’s sometimes about making that quick read, making the quick decision, keeping things moving."

     
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    Austin Rivers: “I know if I was here I’d be in their ear, I’d be bugging them. They may hate it, I may get in their nerves, but it’ll be for their own good."

    Bring him home Ruhfell
     
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    Learn how to read - I literally quoted that part as well.

    There are two factors at play here:

    1) Gordon strikes me as a more quiet guy. He recently said something, and I am quite sure he says something internally.

    2) KPJ doesn't strike me as a guy who actually listens to a vet.

    It takes two to tango - the vet who teaches, and the young guy who listens.

    But here we have a complete moron (KPJ) who considers himself "the head honcho".

    This will never work.

    And all of that doesn't change anything about the fact that it is the coach's job to get his players to play the right way.
     
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    no where in your OP included "they need vets" directly quoted from Rivers

    and then you end it with

    But...yes, you can look at the coach.

    So you take your own advice.

    Tell me where this is "“Somebody needs to teach KPJ and Jalen how to play the right way. … They need those vets.” in this post

     
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    Are you saying it is not a coach's job to teach his players to play the right way?

    Stop embarrassing yourself.
     
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    no, you stop putting your own 2 cents and spinning a direct quote trying to support your own little narrative that passes on bad information

    the embarrassment is your poor attempt at another lets cry about coach thread. you're getting caught and getting worked up about it
     
  19. YOLO

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    I wonder what's more credible: an nba player with a long career in the league giving insight and advice or some random on CF's. tough choice
     
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    They need to hire Hakeem to teach the big guys how to say, "Give me the damn ball!"
     
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