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Mo. Taylor for Crawford?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mogrod, Jul 18, 2004.

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  1. mogrod

    mogrod Member

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    I know, I know, info posted in other forums are frowned upon here, but I saw something and wanted to get people's opinions on it.

    I was on realgm's Rocket board and someone from Chicago posted that they heard on a local radio station that the Bulls are really interested in getting a scoring PF & a PG in return for Crawford and that there top target is the Rockets & MoT. The poster said they really like MoT and love the idea of Lue as a backup to Hinrich. Of course it would be a sign-and-trade.

    Maybe:
    Crawford
    Robinson or Chandler?

    For:
    Taylor
    Lue

    What y'all think?
     
  2. yao ming

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    I'd love to get Crawford, but Lue's not eligible to be traded until something like 60 days following the date that we acquired him.
     
  3. SA Rocket

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    First, I believe Lue would have to be traded by himself for the first 60(?) days of his Rockethood.
     
  4. Shark44

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    Crawford has both skill and potential, but I've also heard that he isn't a great teammate. Does anyone have more first hand info on his attitude/rep?
     
  5. mogrod

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    Yea, I haven't heard much about him other than he is gifted and still young. I read a couple of places he not bad on the defensive end (avg. 1+ stls/game), plus he can play both guard positions. He would be great to bring in and learn under JVG. Then, hopefully after some maturity & seasoning, he will become the pg we all would have hoped to have running this team.
     
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    if we get chandler too, i'd do it.
     
  7. mogrod

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    I doubt they would part with Chandler, but I was just adding other players that could match salaries & who the Rockets might want also. Robinson is another young potiental player who could play the 2 or 3, and Chandler would be a great fit either at starting 4 or backup 5 behind Yao.
     
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    Bulls wouldn't do it and we don't really need a player like Crawford. Sure, he is able to go for 50points a game, but the guy has terrible shot selection, something this team doesn't need.
     
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    Would Crawford fit JVG's "ideal" PG? I just don't know about that...:confused:
     
  10. mogrod

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    First of all, I dont think you read my whole post. I wasn't proposing this idea but only posting a rumor that I read somewhere else which said that the Bulls WOULD be interested.

    Secondly, Crawford wouldn't have free reign to jack shots up shots here. His job would just get the ball to either TMac or Yao and wait for an open three, or drive straight to the basket which gets either two points, a foul or an open look for someone else.
     
  11. mogrod

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    I don't see him as anything but a younger, unpolished Brent Barry who the Rockets were going after. He has size, some 'D' and a nice shot.
     
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    Crawford plays no Defense - -thats why Skiles dosen't like him.
     
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    Crawford = poor man of SF3.

    not bad but doesn't fit.
     
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    - A "rumor" of hearing it on "Chicago radio". I skipped over to the realGM Chicago board, and either they finished discussing it quick, or never had a topic on a potential deal with Houston. Strike 1.
    -Involves Chicago. Chicago newspapers are hardly tight lipped about anything- if it has a remote chance of happening, it'll probably be in print as "about to go down". (Unlike the Chronicle who go weeks at a time without mentioning the Rockets in the offseason :mad: ) Strike 2.
    -RealGM message boards. Pretty much a step up from ESPN. Strike 3.

    Did you seriously just compare Brent Barry and Jamal Crawford? Your saving grace is the term unpolished. People wanted Barry because of how he can play now.

    Crawford is a shoot first PG, better suited to playing SG (which is what he would've done in NY).

    One of the biggest reasons people were drooling over Barry was his shooting percentages. Of his last 4 years, 3 years of 49%+ FG%, and all 4 years were 45% plus. He's on a 5 year string of 40%+ 3P%. Those are downright gaudy numbers for a guy you're recruiting to play PG.

    Crawford is a career sub 40% shooter, and 34% 3P%. His lone season shooting above 42% was a year in which he played only 23 games.

    Completely opposite ends of the spectrum. Maybe Crawford's shooting percentage will jump 10 points, and his 3 point percentage will jump 5, and he'd learn to play defense, and he'd learn to give the ball to the big 7-6 guy in the middle or the 6-8 guy on the wing. I wouldn't be willing to start giving him salary starting at 7 mill a season for the next 6 years to find out.
     
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    I rather trade Mo. T for Boston's Tony Allen and Chris Mihm or Marcus Banks and Chris Mihm.
     
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    Hell no! to Crawford.
     
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    Earlier, I had looked at both the <a HREF="http://www.suntimes.com/index/bulls.html">Sun Times</a> and <a HREF="http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/">Chicago Tribune</a> web sites and found no mention of the Mo Taylor story. The closest Houston related story that I could find was about the Bulls not wanting Moochie in the proposed multi player swap with the Knicks.

    The Bulls <i>lost</i> Fizer in the recent Expansion Draft. Why would they want another player (with a much larger contract) that isn't capable of being a starter in the NBA?
     
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    I don't want Jamal Crawford. He is way too much like Steve Francis and Stevie just didn't work well in JVG's system. I'd much rather a solid journeyman who understands that this team belongs to Yao and McGrady. Crawford honestly doesn't seem to realize he's not a superstar. His attitude reminds me a lot of Ricky Davis.
     
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    Agree with you on almost everything... I think MoT is a capable starter on a lot of teams.


    I don't like Crawford at all. If anything could be agreed with the Bulls for Crawford then I would make it a 3-way, sending Crawford somewhere else (Atlanta?) and get something in return.
     
  20. Sane

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    I just read in this article that Dampier is close to signing for the Hawks.

    If the Hawks get this done, all they need now is a PF and they're good nough to make the playoffs. Maybe we send them MoT for someone?

    Alan Henderson for MoT works out. If they're willing to absorb some salary, MoT for Chris Crawford only eats up around 5M of their capspace.

    We'll throw in a second rounder if they like. We could even throw in Pike because they need some help in the backcourt. Their team would be:

    Dampier/Collier
    MoT/Josh Smith/Crawford
    Al Harrington/Childress/Diaw
    Childress/Diaw/Travis Hansen
    Jason Terry/I don't know

    Offesnvely, this team is aexcellent. Dampier can score easy baskets, put backs, etc... Everyone else is offensively gifted on that team. A Dampier/MoT frontline looks terriffic, Harrington will operate inside, with MoT doing his thing while Childress and Terry will have the looks to work on the perimeter.

    What do we get? Lots of finanacial relief from Mo's contract.

    Still, I'd be reluctant to make this deal because supposedly MoT has been working out like crazy this summer and is in great shape. When training camp comes, I'd hate to see him being in phenomenal shape on another team's roster.
     
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