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  1. Marshall Bryant

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    I tend to agree, but I would have said the same thing in 2022. And Altuve proceeded to have one of his two best years offensively.
     
  2. htownbball

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    So...is Tucker as good as gone?
     
  3. Marshall Bryant

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    Not for two or three more years. But if he does not extend this year or next, I would say yes.
     
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    Sigh...but if you would sign someone to a long term deal, of the current players on the team, wouldn't Tuck be the guy? Long, limber, athletic no injury history and a position that he should be able to still play into his 30s...if we sign him to a 10 year deal it's really like signing him to a 7 year FA deal since he's under team control

    10 years $275M do it!
     
  5. Xopher

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    According to ESPN

    "The contract will start in 2023 and extend through the 2033 season, sources said. The one-year, $17.5 million contract Devers signed earlier in the week to avoid arbitration will be superseded by the long-term deal."
     
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  6. Jeremy Williams

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    Korea
     
  7. finsraider

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    Im fine with the way Houston does business.

    Option #1: You get him for 3 more years, plays like a superstar, wins you another WS or 2, and then you get a compensatory pick when he leaves.

    Option #2: You extend him at a reasonable AAV/years and get a few more of the best years of his career before he leaves in free agency, and you also get a compensatory pick.

    Im generally against trading him unless we’ve completely fallen out of contention.
     
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  8. IdStrosfan

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    It's option #1

    Option #2 is a pipe dream. He has already turned down multiple offers. " reasonable AAV/Years" is not happening on this market at his value and age.

    He's not taking less than 8 yrs ( and wants 10+ I'm sure) and $30M+ for the 5 FA years is absolute floor. Add $30M for arbitration years and 8/$180M is the absolute floor with 10/$210 probably the lowest offer that gets real consideration
     
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  9. Yordan The Great

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    The list is quite stupid.

    Jacob "Availability is the best ability" DeGrom nowhere near the top 10. At least they got Ohtani first.
    Yeah where the hell is the reigning NL MVP in the MLB list? Yet they have 20 HR 75 RBI Correa there?
     
  10. vince

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    It all depends on if Tucker can establish himself as a 200-300 million dollar player.

    The Astros have some good depth in the minors, and guys who may be able to fill in if he left in free agency. But, at this point even though Tucker is amazingly good, there is a limit on how much the Astros should offer him.

    Good thing is Tucker is still here for a few more years to find out. Which we will be able to see if he become the MVP candidate many of us think he has it in him!
     
  11. HTown2017Champs

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    I'd still try to offer Tucker a 3 year deal that buys out his arbitration years, in order to avoid arbitration (which can get very ugly) and lower the luxury tax number towards the end. It has no bearing on when he hits UFA, and ensures he has a contract the next 3 years (not that it really means that much).

    2023: $7M
    2024: $14M
    2025: $21M

    $42M over 3 years, $14M AAV. Of course, the downside is he may just want to go year-by-year, if he continues to perform better and better with the new shift rules he may (and rightfully so) believe he can keep making even more.
     
  12. jayfree

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    These 10 year deals are getting out of hand.

    In the history of the sport, how many players made it 15+ years and were production in those last 5? The truth is, these deals are getting done because owners are scared the price will continue to skyrocket. And they are just hanging on by a thread hoping they picked the right guy to give a contract to.
     
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    What about Garcia, Lee and Maton to the A's for Puk, Soderstrom and Jacob Waters



    Think about it.
     
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    Maton is untradeable.

    Especially to a team trying to cut payroll.
     
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    Why does every trade offer you make have Maton in it?
     
  16. Wulaw Horn

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    Hunter Brown
    Ohtani
    Yordan
    Hunter Brown again
    Javier
    Framber
    Harper
    Altuve
    DeGrom
    Hunter Brown
     
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  17. Wulaw Horn

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    I agree- but that’s too rich. Rucker’s getting most of the benefit of that extension by being guaranteed money when he could have a career ending injury or something. It’s not much but it’s something and the Astros should get paid for doing that. Nothing over 33 maaaaybe 35 makes sense for the Astors on a 3 year deal. I think his numbers probably end up being 6.5/11/18 or something like that.
     
  18. SKYGODZ187

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    I'm moving maton to make room for Martinez and maybe Blanco
     
  19. HTown2017Champs

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    Well, the idea is we "eat" $7M of this year's luxury tax space in exchange for $7M of space in 2025, assuming (and that is a bet) nothing really bad happens to him in the mean time. Also avoids arbitration, which could impact the team/player relationship.
     
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