The point is, if you would trade KPJ for LaMelo, why wouldn't you even consider Green for LaMelo - too many people have a favorite rather than looking at what is good for the team overall. Look at it like this. Is: LaMelo - PG KPJ - SG KMJ - SF Jabari - PF Sengun - C better than - KPJ - PG Green - SG KMJ - SF Jabari - PF Sengun - C If so, then you should be saying yes...do the trade. DD
Do you think NBA GMs see KPJ and Green as the same level in terms of trade value? There are a lot of implications you make with your posts that obviously are there to illicit reaction. You know we can still have conversations in the GARM without someone trying to illicit reaction. You aren't trying to monetize your clutch fans account or something right? Because it seems like you express thoughts on the GARM for the sole purpose of maximizing engagement(trolling) You ain't going to get rich off it so why even waste time? Is the opportunity cost worth it?
So why would someone have a higher trade value of their alleged impact is the same then? Are you saying other GMs outside the Rockets org have an emotional attachment to Green?
Come on, you can't be serious? This is not a legitimate questions you know very well why that is...KPJ's history has him held back a bit on value, but as time goes by that goes away too. IMHO, Green and KPJ are about equal as a SG, Green is a faster athlete but KPJ is far and away more skilled. I have said since day one when we drafted Green one of them will probably need to go - and if I believed in both, then I would be looking to see what I could get for either, and the one that nets me the better player would be the one I would be looking to trade. Thus this thread. Asset management 101 - for many here. DD
So you are saying the only difference between the trade value of KPJ and Green is mental health issues? Not the fact that KPJ has never even matched the scoring efficiency of Green's rookie year after being in the league for 3+ years?
y are we doing this LaMelo - PG KPJ - SG KMJ - SF Jabari - PF Sengun - C better than - KPJ - PG Green - SG KMJ - SF Jabari - PF Sengun - C When we all know that LaMelo- PG Green - SG KMJ - SF Jabari - PF Sengun - C is better than LaMelo - PG KPJ - SG KMJ - SF Jabari - PF Sengun - C case close trade kpj for lamelo, but we all know that's never gonna happen. Hornets will never trade for kpj, with green they might since he is the superior of the two and has more trade value.
I am not sure it is better, but let's assume you are correct the reason we are doing it is because KPJ atm can't generate the same trade value as Green so if you are trying to get a LaMelo you have to give up someone that others think has huge potential and doesn't bring the mental health baggage. I would be fine if KPJ were traded for LaMelo - happy as a clam, I just don't believe he has the same trade value because of his past. And yes, I think KPJ and Green are relatively close in impact as a SG. DD
then u go with the younger and cheaper contact to build a team. 2nd year player being close to a 4th year vet. Either green is that good or kpj isnt that good, u can spin it either way.
Sure, this thread though is about what could we give up to get LaMelo, if KPJ can be included with a pic and Ego or something I am 100% down with going the LaMelo and Green way as well..... I just want us to have a true potential superstar and think LaMelo is better than anyone on our team now....and will always be.... DD
Green is a true potential superstar. It's an indictment of how poor our team is run but Jalen as a off guard has a higher percentage of his fgm being self created than LaMelo, the primary ball handling playmaker on his respective team. That shouldn't really happen. Off guards should be getting more assisted looks than primary ball handling guards. And even then Green and LaMelo's scoring efficiency is pretty much even for their careers. And that has to do with LaMelo being more consistent as an outside shooter so far but looking at the numbers Green is by far the better finisher at the rim even though he is a smaller player which makes their scoring efficiency even out. Being a better finisher is more sustainable for long term scoring efficiency.
What about Lamelo's possessions around the rim that result in lobbed dunks to teammates? How are you considering their impact? Finishing ability also correlates to a player's athleticism which will gradually decline every year after his athletic peak. So I'm not sure it really is more sustainable than superior perimeter shooting. FWIW, I'm very high on Lamelo. I think he has all the tools to be a special player.
A lot of Green's finishing ability has less to do with his vert and more to do with his pliability /bend and soft touch around the rim.
I think Westbrook and Green are examples of someone who finishes at the rim from sheer athleticism and someone who finishes at the rim from a combination of athleticsm and touch. Westbrook first two seasons finishing at the rim: 48% and 53% Green first two seasons finishing at the rim: 68% and 66% Both ridiculous athletes, one has actual skill around the rim.
Exactly. That's my point. Green' finishing has a lot to do with his traits he still will have as he ages. He does have a natural soft touch and uses crafty angles.
You've missed the point. As he gets older and loses athleticism, he'll be slower and have less air-time. Granted, he's 10 years away from that, but that's why superior perimeter shooting is better for long term scoring efficiency. Also, did you ignore my point about the lobs to teammates?
