That deal wouldn't work because... #1. The Pacers wouldn't do it. #2. The two players in question don't make enough to consitute an even trade if Olajuwon signed for $4.5 million. ------------------ How the hell should I know why God would allow the Holocaust. I don't even know how the electric can opener works. - from Hannah and Her Sisters
Since Indiana will have to trade dollar for dollar the rumors for Dream in exchange for Mckey and Perkins might not be wrong after all.However if don't get a good young center Mo Taylor might just sign with the Pistons. The situation is looking very difficult for the Rockets. ------------------
I forgot to add the word we to the last post.It should have been if we don't sign a good young center Mo Taylor might just sign with the Pistons. The situation is looking very difficult for the Rockets. ------------------
Dream is making this tougher then it has to be. I don't know why he waited this deep into the free agency to do this. If the Rockets have to do a sign-and-trade I would prefer it be with Toronto because of that fact that it is a possibility that Keon Clark could become obsolete with the acquisition of Hakeem and the re-signing of Antonio Davis, and the fact the Rockets would have an exemption to use, possibly for Marc Jackson. ------------------ "Instruments are like women: After a while, you want to make love to another." - Nicolas Godin of the musical duo Air
Or...they could simply get a draft pick from Toronto and then ship it somewhere with that same exemption for a player like Marc Jackson. The great thing about the exemption is that they could go ahead and sign their own players first and then do the trade with GS for draft picks if that were the case. In fact, they could trade draft picks to ANYBODY and use that exemption for a player. It keeps getting more complicated. ------------------ How the hell should I know why God would allow the Holocaust. I don't even know how the electric can opener works. - from Hannah and Her Sisters
Just kinda out of left field, their was a rumor a couple of weeks ago out of Detroit, that if the Pacers needed to dump salary because of signing a player and needing to avoid the luxury tax that they would send Croshere (75% BYC player) to Detroit for a 2nd round pick, which WOULD create a trade exemption. Croshere is seen by some Pacers fans as expendable because he will NEVER be a starter with the Pacers (Jalen at SF, J.O. at PF) and is making starter money. That coupled with Harrington, Foster, and Bender being SF/PF types. If the exemption becomes the sticking point for a Pacers in a S&T for Dream, one could be created. ------------------ http://jonathanbender.8m.com http://alharrington.8m.com http://jermaineoneal.8m.com
What the hell is wrong with the Rockets? They can't offer him more than 4 million? What's the deal with that? My god, give the guy six million per year. ------------------ Protrolls.com! Keep the ???? alive! The ZRBucks!
ZRB, I want Hakeem too, but I'm sure the Rockets have a far greater understanding of what they want to do with their cap room than any of us do. If it comes down to either Mo Taylor or Hakeem, I think we'll be waving goodbye to Hakeem pretty quickly. I'm starting to wonder if we might be close to an agreement with someone such as Marc Jackson, and maybe we are trying to save money through the whole process to sign him, Mo, Moochie, and Dream if we caught a break. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site [This message has been edited by The Cat (edited July 20, 2001).]
I'm surprised Les doubled the offer from $4.1M for one year to two. I hope it's just media posturing and Les in fact has no intention of paying dream even $1.00. As a fellow speculator, I would be very disappointed in Les if he did not carry out rule #1 of allocating captial - cut your losers! ------------------
Come on, 4.1 million is pure greed- on the part of the Rockets. ------------------ Protrolls.com! Keep the ???? alive! The ZRBucks!
$4M divided by the about 50 games Dream will probably be available to play in, comes to $80k/game. Now, who's ripping who off?? ------------------
So is everyone else undervaluing him too? Out of all the teams pursuing him, including the Rockets, none are offering a higher amount than 4.5 mil. I would probably pay him a little more, but not if it costs us someone like Mo Taylor. I trust CD to make the personnel and financial decisions for us, and there is a sound reason behind whatever he does. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
minor technicality. By your numbers, we would not receive a trade exception. We would receive cap space. You don't get both, yet, obviously, cap space is more valuable than a trade exception, because trade exceptions can only be used on trades, whereas cap room is good on anything.
Houston television station KRIV reported Friday that Pacers President Donnie Walsh and head coach Isiah Thomas were in Houston meeting with Olajuwon, hoping to lure him to Indiana. Rockets general manager Carroll Dawson said he was notified by Olajuwon's agent about the meeting with Indiana. ``They're greatly over the (salary) cap. So anything they come up with would probably be a call to me on a sign and trade,'' Dawson said. ``I would think that would be their only route. They could possibly use their exception. There are a lot of different ways. I don't know what their intentions are until I talk to them. I haven't talked to them.'' http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/gen/wire?messageId=5541160 ------------------ http://jonathanbender.8m.com http://alharrington.8m.com http://jermaineoneal.8m.com
Fegan is essentially holding the Rockets hostage. It makes you wonder why Hakeem hasn't already put an end to this whole thing. The way I see it, if he truly wants to return to the Rockets, he should know that he is the bottleneck in resigning Taylor, Anderson and Norris. Why would Hakeem want to pocket veto a chance at signing these guys? This would cripple the team he would be playing for if he were to return. Is he holding out for a measly $1mm? Come on, for Hakeem that's nothing. My gut feeling is that he wants to prove himself elsewhere and that he is upset about 1) how he's been treated the past two seasons and 2) Cato's deal. ------------------ My Kroger card should say "Signature" on it, because that's the grocery store I shop at. I felt slighted, because the store is of a higher quality than the *regular* Kroger. So that's why I penciled in "Signature" on the front and back of my card.
I have thought that as well. It is interesting you brought that up. What I think is interesting is that none of the other Rocket free agents have done ANYTHING. They are just hanging out. It makes me believe the really want to return and believe the Rockets will work it out. Knowing the consequences of the Joe Smith deal, I'm sure they didn't work out any deals with anyone but I am pretty sure the other players know about what they can expect. I would not be surprised if the Rockets already had money set aside to allocate for specific players which is why they aren't budging on Hakeem's deal. It doesn't mean they agreed with anyone (Jackson included), but it probably means they know exactly what they can/can't will/won't spend. This all comes down to Hakeem and his delays. He's the lynch pin in the whole operation. ------------------ How the hell should I know why God would allow the Holocaust. I don't even know how the electric can opener works. - from Hannah and Her Sisters
Jeff, Of course I'm just speculating, but doesn't it seem like Jackson is doing much the same thing as Mo Taylor, Moochie, and others? It seems as if all talks have stalled with him. There was a lot of talk about him and Seattle at first, but Seattle appears unwilling to spend the cash. There was then some talk about him just resigning with Golden State, but I haven't heard anything on that front either in the past few days. I doubt the Rockets made an agreement with him, but I am starting to wonder if they might've told him or another outside free agent to "wait until we get Hakeem's situation resolved, and we'll see what we can do." If Hakeem leaves, I can't see the Rockets leaving the center position the way it is now. They must have some plan to go after a center such as Clark in a sign and trade, or Jackson in free agency... I hope. ------------------ Draftsource.net-- the premier source for draft info. Profiles, rankings, mock drafts, and more! The Mo Taylor Fan Site
Cat, you're in denial. It's Cato-time! BTW, check the fantasy forum- Final Standings. ------------------ Protrolls.com! Keep the ???? alive! The ZRBucks!
http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/pacers_010720_olajuwon.html?nav=ArticleList Pacers perspective. ......Houston has long been interested in Austin Croshere, attempting to sign the Pacers' forward as a free agent last summer. Croshere is also a Fegan client. Any deal involving Croshere would fall under base-year compensation rules. Though Croshere will earn $5.96 million next season, the Pacers can only acquire a player or players whose salaries total 75 percent of that figure - roughly $4.5 million...... ------------------ http://jonathanbender.8m.com http://alharrington.8m.com http://jermaineoneal.8m.com
