I don't mean it in the original, positive sense of black anti-racism ("stay woke"), but in the sense of the word it has evolved to mostly being used as over time. "Woke people" are entitled leftists who like to virtue signal without being truly virtuous, who follow an intolerant and fake moralizing ideology, who believe in cancel culture, "critical race theory" and who are against traditional family values and parental rights. Most woke people are indeed extremely authoritarian (in a sense that they believe in big government, like in China), they believe in groupthink and they believe in silencing viewpoints which deviate from what they have been told to believe in, as "the current thing". They are comparable to the pharisees from the bible. Some typical woke agenda items nowadays (non-exhaustive list): - promoting transgenderism, at the expense of children's rights and parental rights - trying to redefine language to push leftist narratives - using Covid and "climate change" to promote an authoritarian agenda in which the rights of individuals get curtailed at the expense of what "the party" thinks (oldest trick in the book - use a real or exaggerated threat to control the masses) - canceling political opponents (e.g. mass reporting and defamation via social media) - extreme self-righteousness - hysterically demonizing and attempting to silence anyone who doesn't go along with the current groupthink Ultimately, being woke (in its current meaning) is the opposite of being free, and of respecting the desire of others to be free.
This One of the biggest problems these days is that many tend to think that either side of the fence is "far".
Funny how the boogeymen of conservatives are the boogeymen of the fascists…. Pure coincidence I’m sure….
You are a big government too bruh…. DeSantis is using big government to mold speech to a more “traditional” era and you’ve supported it. Funny how you started tossing in more explicit Christian related talking points. Always knew what was behind your rhetoric…. It’s beyond hilarious how you don’t view yourself being on the opposite side of the same coin as the woke.
That's been going on since at least the George W. Bush administration. Now it seems everyone to the right of wherever you are is a bigot/racist/fascist/nazi. Moderate Democrats are getting that now.
Explanation with more click bait type terminology. So then your next step is to do things like explain what "CRT" is and explain your methodology to determine sincerity vs virtue signaling. I have my methodologies to determine things like sincerity vs grifting when it comes to media personalities and "journalists". For example a sincere journalist will spend a large amount of their time discussing and engaging in topics that aren't algorithm friendly in social media aka not "the hot controversial topic of the week". And that's a reason why I certain outlets and journalists. A lot of the content they produce is not algorithm friendly. It's hours and hours of dry informative information on how to organize and sincerely help local homeless populations, how to be actual activists etc. That stuff does not generate clicks and the only people to engage in this content are sincere people. . "Journalists" like Matt Taibbi and Barri Weiss will never spend time on this type of content. They will always focus on the hot topic of the day because their end goal is maximize engagement and a following base.
Here is a small example of how your narratives just don't make sense when you analyze things like opportunity cost, motive, intent etc. Leftists activists want authorarianism or are just sincere about their beliefs in climate science and the dangers of Covid? Why do they want authorarianism? Usually entities that have the hegemony and power want authorarianism because they are the ones who are control. Leftists want laborers to own the means of production. That central idea will always mean leftists will not be the ones who control capital, power etc. In modern history extreme leftists are nothing more than poor people having enough with the land ownership system that abused laborers and start commiting violence and violently removing land owners from their land. That's extreme leftism. I just don't know how you even get this narrative that leftists want authorarianism because they want polices that address climate science?
Maybe with Nazi and racism, but fascism is being used correctly though. I think the issue here is that fascism is so strongly tied to the worst most genocidal example of it at its most extreme point(the Nazis and the Holocaust) that when someone is rightfully accused of being a fascist, they immediately jump to the conclusion that they are being accused of having genocidal desires.
The world is so full of division that labeling the loudest, most obnoxious voices on either side of the spectrum as "woke", "communist", or "nazi", "fascist", is somehow become labeling of the entire other side of the political spectrum. Look no further than this thread to see examples. Honesty takes a back seat to narrative. "Your side" can't win unless the other side loses...even at the cost of integrity. Moderates (i.e. pragmatists, realists) have no place any more. In order to be "heard" in today's discourse one needs to be as outrageous as possible it seems. If you have a more nuanced position or find some middle ground one is either ignored or (once again) labeled as an extremist and the cycle continues. In a 50/50 world, you'd think that the 2 sides would understand that progress usually occurs when compromise takes place but it's become quite the opposite. It's all or nothing. Dominate or be dominated. And the spiral downward continues...
Yup. Anyone I don’t like or disagree with is (a): Homophobe Transphobe TERF Bigot Racist Sexist Misogynist Far-Right Right Wing Extremist White Supremacist Fascist (their new favorite word, replacing Nazi) Nazi Terrorist (White) Nationalist Christian Taliban MAGAt Deplorable Russian Agent/Bot Anything I don’t like or disagree with is (a): Danger to democracy Threat to democracy An attack on democracy Russian Disinformation Conspiracy Disinformation/Misinformation Hate speech You people now consider the likes of Elon, Taibbi, Bari, Tulsi to be “far right extremists”. Hell, you probably also consider people like Yang, Sinema & Manchin to be “alt-right”. “ThEy wErE nEvEr ReAL DemOcRaTs iN tHe FiRsT pLaCe! GoOd rIdDaNcE tO tHoSe FaScIsTs!” “The fascist illegitimate Supreme Court won’t let us kill our babies!” “The fascist governors are trying to stop us from sexualizing and mutilating kids!” “Fascist billionaire who is buying Twitter is a threat to democracy!” “This German fascist (@AroundTheWorld ) is trying to talk American politics! Shut up!” “Fascist! Fascist! Fascist!” “Women (what is a woman wokesters?) have no rights! We might as well be Afghan women!” “It’s not happening…and it’s a good thing it’s happening you bigot!” LOL
You know what is more annoying than “entitled leftists” that you label as “woke”? Wing nuts who never shut up about all of those bullet points you listed which are made for FoxNews fake culture war conspiracies. These are not existential threats to your life or lifestyle. It’s all manufactured to get you riled up because the fact is FoxNews and others that write this script for you know what triggers your grievances. Are all FoxNews watchers literal Nazi’s???… of course not. Are all FoxNews watchers aggrieved by perceived demographic and cultural changes? Obviously yes or they wouldn’t be pumping this into your subconscious 24/7 and you wouldn’t be hooked. Being aggrieved about demographic and cultural changes doesn’t make you a Nazi, but you’re at least aligned on a sliding spectrum of political motivation. Few people go all the way to 10 because they have alot to lose and they grew up with a moral compass that can still meter your impulses… which is why FoxNews etc create Paul Pelosi type of conspiracy theories for you to mentally block that moral muscle memory. Your reaction to the Nancy Pelosi assassination attempt really is the best way to describe what is going on with the totality of the right and why it’s really a danger for outlets like Fox to traffic in moral metering instead of just letting peoples moral compass kick in naturally and doing the harder work to make your political leaders match the morality that I’m sure you were raised with and is still in your muscle memory. Because like with everything.. the more you excuse, the more you’ll accept and then one does slide from a 1 (FoxNews watching conservative with strong morals) to a 10 (Nazi who justifies violence to serve a political end).
People somehow think fascist is overused, but throw out "communist" and "socialist" like candy. Look at the comments on any Fox News article and the troglodytes there use it in every other post. They cant actually even define communism or socialism. I see much more 1920's fascist rhetoric from the right than I do socialist rhetoric from the left. There is no left mainstream call for the government/the people to own the means of production. I don't see leftists waiving Communist or Socialist flags. The far left mostly rejects Biden. The far right fully embraces Trump and DeSantis. ATW wants to spout off about transgenderism and critical race theory. He knows **** about either. No one is trying to force kids to be transgender. He couldn't define critical race theory with a ****ing dictionary. Just like rest of the right and their made up boogeymen. Critical Race Theory isn't even taught in K-12.
Yep. Fine Christians over there on the Fox News website. Go take a look at the comments on the article about Jamie Raskin having cancer or any minority committing a crime.
LOL. What? Is all of that to say you think it’s a coincidence that fascists in the early 20th century also attacked migrants, non traditional values, teh gayz, teh bad religions, etc and now the populist GOP is attacking the same?
The economic pie of prosperity is shrinking as inequality gaps touch middle to lower middle classes. The chance of one freak health or financial accident bankrupting folks is getting bigger and bigger. This ramps up disagreement and polarization among both sides despite neither party getting serious about addressing root causes for long term change. Something like immigration reform never happens because we consider things one and done so no bill is perfect and considered absolute evil and neither party wants to hand the other the "victory". I suppose the first presidential bill could push this through but the payoff is miniscule compared to a tax cut or a large legacy platform. The deficit has snowballed to the point where free spending and helicoptering money to citizens and corporations alike are baked into every persons mindset in short term spending decisions. It just leads to riskier speculative behaviors (private debt more troubling catalyst in financial crises than public debt) while the interest payments form an albatross to any hopes of long term Keynesian multipliers, much like a cocaine addict needing more for her bump. We're at the point of demonizing neighbors and ghosting old friends for what they write online. The real way forward is for people to work together and start the heavy lifting for years long journey but we're fighting and blaming each other for our paralysis. The chances of changing course with a "soft landing" are slim without a rock bottom for us to prioritize what really is important. The more we choose short term goals, the longer the recovery will take.
