KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Our team is filled with a bunch of inefficient players. It is why our team sucks. Being 2nd best of the starters in this particular “efficiency” stat on a team filled with inefficient players doesn’t change any one’s feelings that KPJs continued career spanning inefficiency as a scorer is a big problem for his role. Also again, age and experience….

And let us not forget….Lies, damned lies and statistics! (Except the few that I can find that “support” my side)

 

I don’t believe he is a PG, we are trying to develop two combo guards instead. That is what I want to see if it works.

DD

 

okay combo guard. But he’s not. He’s a shooting guard. That’s just my opinion based on watching him a lot and looking at his numbers.

honestly, when you watch him and Green operate in the back court together, you don’t see him as a detriment to Jalen’s development? Do u really think having KPJ run the court has been good for Jalen?

 

Right, so if we draft someone like Amen Thompson who is a POINT FORWARD ala Larry Bird, we can have 2 SGs alongside of him......if not, we build up his stats, get away from his mental issues and trade him for value later.

It is 100% good for the franchise whether it works or not.

DD

 

but it’s really not if it’s not helping the development of our other top prospects.

Im also not sure we are building up KPJ’s value verses playing him more off the ball where his skill set can shine.

so sounds like you want us to draft a point forward and run two shooting guards out there next to him. Seems like a very narrow vision; not trying to offend so much as understand.

 

This "build up his stats and trade him" thing is a fallback you've mentioned before. Do you really think KPJ has value around the league? If so, what do you think we could get for him?

The problem in just waiting for next year is we've got guys who need to develop. If "the experiment" doesn't work, we've wasted development opportunities. It's not "cost free" - a failed experiment represents opportunity lost.

 

This is building up Wood's trade value all over again. KPJ's contract is worse. The only way he builds up trade value if he plays his contract's worth, which from this point on seems very unlikely, in which case rockets may want to keep him.

 

Yes, that is what I want - because that is the best way forward from where we are - and I am 100% ok with how development is going with the players, but not with the coaching.

I don't for 1 second believe where you are drafted makes you anymore of a top prospect than anyone else....prove it on the floor.

DD

 

https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/kpj-rockets-agree-on-extension.317303/page-17#post-14289431

 

Of course he does.....and it gets better and better the farther away from his incidents.

Until we get rid of Silas it doesn't matter anyway.

DD

 

KPJ has similar value to beanie babies... maybe if you keep them long enough they will be worth something!

 

KPJ can score and I believe that he can be an efficient scorer, where he is failing is as a playmaker (IMO).

I would just like to see an offense where the ball moves more and he is asked to do less. Quicker decisions out of the PNR with less dribbling. Have a plan before you get into the paint and consistently make the right pass. Look to get others involved first and then everyone eats.

It sounds simple but it's not done enough. I do believe that part of it is the coach, but I think KPJ's mindset has much to do with it as well.

Also, it's kinda hard to be the guy when your head coach established the pecking order by putting the reigns in the hands of your backcourt partner, just another reason I would like to see more of the staggering between the two.

 

150 pages after, and tons of losses after OP stat this thread, I hope he and others know how bad KPJ is. Thanks. Best regards.

 

Yeah sure, but regardless, this particular stat sucks especially bad. You can't give someone credit for points from free throws without accounting for FTA. I mean, what's someone's ScEff if they have 0 field goal attempts and they go 2/2 at the free throw line? It should be pretty apparent your stat is horrible if it can give a divide-by-zero error.

 

Where does the belief that he can be an efficient scorer come from? KPJ scoring at just league average efficiency for an entire season is something that is hard to fathom

 

KPJ has no trade value now. Even if you can build his value up “some”, it’s not really saying much.

Plus, if you want to build up his value, what’s better than playing him off ball at his natural position?

 

Funny how it worked. We "built up" Wood's trade value to get what? Four cast-aways and a guy who seldom plays. (But it's all worth it because we landed Boban, my favorite player!)

 

Unless there is a trade clause that guarantees salary - Next year, he should have value as an expiring w/nominal upside in pursuit of a player teams want to get off the books for whatever reason.

 

I don't think we know what we have in Green yet at all. He's with a bad coach and no system. Might not b

We really don't know yet. He's hindered because we have the worst coach as well as the worst "pg" in basketball. I wish I shared your optimism on Jabari. He can't create anything on his own. He's a secondary piece imo.

 

True, but feel like he is being asked to be something he is not right now. That may or may not be having an impact on his efficiency but would like to see him focus primarily on scoring (preferably as the back up 2) and leave the PG responsibilities to someone else.

We may not have that person on the roster right now (maybe TyTy with more minutes and seasoning) but that is the direction I would love to see the Rockets go.

Probably a pipe dream under the current coaching staff (and GM? ... not sure how committed or concerned Stone is with KPJ's role ).