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What's it going to take Pt 2?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Believe It!, Dec 23, 2022.

  1. Believe It!

    Believe It! Member

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    What's it going to take to admit the KPJ experiment at this point, is a complete failure?

    It's clear he would at the very least, probably have to be found guilty of murder to do that. Being accused would not cut it. Nor just being charged. They would keep handing him the keys night in and night out, to run the team (himself), however he likes, until a jury of his peers found him guilty. Then they might discuss it.

    It's Criminally Insane.

    Note: Sorry for the depressing thread. I blame it on the holidays.
     
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  2. jim1961

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    KPJ as a PG (primary distributor/ball handler) might not be working, or ever work.
    But KPJ as a player, used differently, could yield something else.
    If we get a forward who can distribute, then KPJ at the 1 could work out.
     
  3. Garner

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    What is it going to take for people to stop making new threads that don’t offer new information or a differentiated view?
     
  4. Believe It!

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    Yeah because quality threads abound!

    It's actually a legit question. This is questioning the organization's mindset. As bad as the team is being "lead", what will it take to fix the problem? Or would they even consider it? I highly doubt it.
     
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  5. BaselineFade

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    I agree. I don't see any wings available that that are efficient distributors in free agency for the next couple of years. We would have to trade for someone, but I have no idea who would be available. We could draft Thompson or Black to play the 3 and play that role. The concern would be if KPJ would be willing to move off ball more and become a secondary playmaker. I believe giving him more open catch and shoot opportunities and if he moves well off ball I think his overall efficiency could go quite a bit.

    If pride and egos can handle it, that scenario could work for betterment of the TEAM.
     
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  6. Garner

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    this is incoherent. KPJs contract should tell you exactly how the organization feels about the player.

    It’s a rebuilding team. Figure it out.
     
  7. snowconeman22

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    Once we bring back tate and see how we play with a real PG and leader on the floor
     
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  8. ApacheWarrior

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    I agree.

    Celtics use Marcus Smart-Jaylen Brown-Tatum to dictate the offense and get to the finals.
    Warriors just had more horses in:
    Curry-Poole-Dray-Wiggins outlasting the other.

    Here is an article I just found repeating many points I've made recently
    https://theanalyst.com/2021/03/the-modernization-of-nba-offenses-and-why-small-ball-is-here-to-stay/
     
  9. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Like how is it a problem to the organization though? It's only a problem to us. To Stone, he has all season to give KPJ to develop as long as the pick is good. To Silas, he has infinite patience for this since he'll be given a roster that includes vets next season.
     
  10. Believe It!

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    Young kids growth be damned?

    Sounds good.
     
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  11. Swapshop

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    You know what else could work and has potential? At least half the NBA.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    It is not a complete failure at all, he is learning fine.

    He has a turnover issue, and the rest of the team has a missing easy shots issue.

    Blaming this train wreck on KPJ is ignorant and stupid he is not the main problem, that is Silas.

    The team is developing they are TRYING to see if 2 combo guards can work - if it doesn't they will trade one of them. This year doesn't matter.

    Or, they could draft a POINT FORWARD and have Jalen and KPJ play off the ball but having learned how to pass adequately as a SG this year.

    So, all this blaming on a team of 20 somethings that can't shoot, can't defend and has growth and development problems on the bench as well as the floor is mind numbingly dumb.

    Just see who is on the roster next year when it matters.

    Exactly, they didn't have to give him a contract at all, so they want to see him at least for this year and next to see how he develops....patience padwans...patience. BTW he was very good last game.....

    DD
     
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    keep trying to jam the square peg into the round hole - or just get a freakin pg...
     
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  14. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Pretty obvious by now he doesn't believe it will significantly slow down the kids' growth. It's a very popular opinion, lots of people treating our 2023 pick as though we're a roster full of 0's. It's not that he doesn't care about the growth, it's just that he cares less than us.

    Not my way of doing things, but it is what's happening.
     
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    kpjr is a primma donna. mopes and lopes when he don't have the ball. won't defend. jogs up and down detached. doesn't cut unless it's to score. dances around with ball to self-create. doesn't run plays. not a team player. he sucks.
     
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  16. Corrosion

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    @Clutch to revoke people's thread starting ability who repeatedly spam the forum with redundant threads.


    Multiple people starting a new thread every other week on the same subject is not adding anything to the forum, it's just cluttering the place up.

    One 600 page thread instead of 600 multiple page threads.

    There's really nothing new or objective in starting these threads.
     
  17. harold bingo

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    Yeah this is hard to gauge as fans, we watch the games and it's hard to be patient without knowing what's going on behind the scenes and what the plan is. Stone (probably) is having to weigh stunted development of our players against getting a higher pick, and he's decided that this is the optimal way to handle it. It's hard to really judge this until next year, that's when it will be revealed whether Stone had a master plan all along or if this is all just aimless stumbling and incompetence.
     
  18. Roomba

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    The thing is, while KPJ would definitely be better served having a true point guard feeding him the ball, would he at this point be willing to relinquish his current role for the betterment of the team?

    I truly don't know. I don't think he's unselfish enough to let go of his spot, but I'd like to be proven wrong.
     
  19. Salvy

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    There is basically not a single reason to remove KPJ from PG, The Rockets are not competing for a playoff spot. At this point there are two goals, highest draft pick possible and player development. KPJ has improved at point enough to where its better to just let him play the remainder of the season in that position. Worst case scenario he does not get any better but The Rockets benefit with a lesser record to go for the top pick. Even then KPJ having the ball in his hands helps with him developing into his potential. Whether a future Rockets star guard or a trade piece, the more KPJ gets acclimated at PG the better it is for The Rockets.... There is no point in hating KPJ at the moment, it unlikely he is The Rockets point guard in the future unless he makes a huge leap with turnovers and decision making. And that leap won't come with him not playing the point. Let him have a fair shot at it and TyTy can back him up.
     
  20. CHAMPBOY

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    I really like TyTy at Point Guard, he was passing to Sengun, passing across court and giving it up to Jabari…like it a lot.
     

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