KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

There’s a few things I can guarantee that can’t happen if we wanna be a contender in the future.
1. Sengun starting at the 5.
2. KPJ starting at PG
3. Jalen being the best player on the team (he can be number) think Kyrie Irving, so it’s not really an insult

 

Green could be the guy. Removing KPJ and Silas will make it easier to find out.

 

IMHO, Green will never be the guy, he doesn't have that type of personality....he will be a great complimentary piece, but not "HIM"....sorry, I just don't see it.

DD

 

Yeah well you've never been high on JG so you'll excuse me if I don't take your word for it.

As a matter of fact weren't you the person who said we need to trade either Jalen or KPJ. Or how about when you said you'd trade Green and our FRP (which turned out to be Jabari) for Mobley... yeah you said April Fools but you meant that.

The simple fact of the matter is that Jalen has progressed more in 1.5 years than KPJ has in 3.5. Even if KPJ was moved to the 2 guard spot, I'd take Jalen over him just based on the fact that he is already as good as KPJ and has the potential to be better.

Honestly ask yourself... how much more will KPJ develop as a player? I think what we're are seeing right now is pretty much the finished product and if that's the case then KPJ is definitely not "THE GUY" as you put it and needs to move over so we get a good look at whether another player in this young core could be "THE GUY".

Because as long as 'this guy' is dominating the ball most every possession I honestly have no clue what we may have.

 

I still think you have to trade Jalen or KPJ unless we get Amen as a Point forward.

I disagree about progressed, Jalen hasn't improved much from last year at all - and what I am talking about is his leadership or can he be the DUDE....I don't see it...Jalen is so right hand dominant that it is crazy, he needs to get to work on his game - I worry that he will be just another guy getting by on his athletic ability - and not his skills which are pretty meh to be honest.....he isn't a great ball handler, has no left hand, and isn't a great shooter, what exactly is he if you take away the athleticism?

He just doesn't have that KILLER instinct, he defers too much to be the guy.

I could be wrong, but I don't think he is a franchise level player, a guy that might make a few all star games, he is more of a McCullough than a Dame...IMHO.

As for KPJ - my answer is the same as Green - I can't judge where they finish until I see them with a quality coach......

Being THE GUY is more about " is he a leader " .....

DD

 

Wasn't being specific about players on any given day it can be KPJ, Sengun, Green, Gordon, Nix, KJ, whoever. I just meant that with out rotation, there's never a lineup on the floor where there are not 2 bad defenders at least. That's a death sentence for an NBA team that doesn't have elite scorers.

 

This post is actually pretty funny to me. Not anything wrong that you are saying, but how this whole KPJ extension debate started to begin with. His stans insisted that he was on the cusp of breaking out into stardom due to a string of like 8 games, that he was going to hit these lofty averages with great efficiency while being an elite defender. That we should secure him NOW for $20M otherwise we would have to pay $30M to keep him or risk another team poaching him and that $15M was some huge team discount. Fast forward to today, how many teams would even want him for $15M?

 

I agree. We need to see what Green can do without KPJ. I am not counting Green out yet until then. KPJ has been a hindrance/detriment to this team in many ways. His off the court issues alone should be enough, and it definitely doesn't compensate with his porous performance. How many chances does this guy need? Our mgmt seems to linger on with our players and cant let them go. Total opposite of Moreys style.

Green/Sengun/Smith. Build from them.

Trade KPJ for a can of beans or whatever you can get for him. The league knows about his shotty play more than some of you value him. Our organization is gun shy and wont pull the trigger on trades etc. Mgmt needs to be evaluated along with coaching staff.

 

Just get rid of KPJ. At least Green

Lol at Green "never will be him" but your ridiculous support of KPJ. It's unreal how absurd your takes are.

 

Removing KPJ and Silas is actually what needs to be done to find out how good Green can be. KPJ is holding him back by latching on to him.

 

Out of our starters, KPJ has the 2nd highest scoring efficiency.

Alpi's is : 1.380
KpJ is: 1.217
EGo is: 1.217
JG is: 1.209
JS is: 1.102

And all we hear about here is the KPJ can't be a PG because he is inefficient as a scorer or assist man, clearly he has a turnover issue, but maybe if he was surrounded with guys that could actually shoot.......

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/hou/table/game/sort/scoringEfficiency/dir/desc

Green looks like a Beta to me, doesn't have that leadership personality type - I think Jabari does though.....I think Green is very skilled and uber athletic, but he is almost all right hand, and is super inconsistent and I don't see him leading anything out there....he is only 20, but he just looks like a high end complimentary player to me.

DD

 

Leadership skills can be developed. Basketball IQ, not so much

 

Both can be developed, but leadership comes naturally to some and others not so much.

What happened to all the efficiency fan boys????? TS% etc.....my support of KPJ has always been that he is being treated unfairly - whether or not he is a star or whatever is TBD, but he is not the only problem on the team and is far from the biggest one.

DD

 

What is this stat? What does it mean? I've never heard of it.

 

Scoring efficiency, did you click the link?

DD

 

DD just give up on your KPJ point guard fandom. The stats don’t support your case. The eye test doesn’t support your case either. You are definitely entitled to your wrong opinion though.

 

Lol, yes, I can read that they call it "scoring efficiency", but what is it? Where does it come from? How is it calculated?

 

Since Tate is MIA the whipping boy replacement for Wood is KPJ rather fair or not

And that link you posted about the starters, out of 100% how much weight do you give it?

5/15/20+%?

 

Appears to be total points divided by total field goal attempts

 

Jeez, well that’s a pretty horrible stat.