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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. Rock Block

    Rock Block Sorta here sometimes
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    All the same talking points from JV and thats to be expected and just fine but yea he can say "it paid off".

    Ah yes, Cohen is so personal and he's just "Steven". Hopefully Steven loves to play golf......
     
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    48.8 War from our most likely opening day roster.
    Problems with that list- I think they accidentally transfixed Hunter Browns number- it says 0.9 but I'm pretty sure it should read 9.0- they might want to go ahead and fix that glitch they made.
    Pena, Tucker and Javier outperform unless they get banged up and miss a bunch of time.
    That team profiles to what- 100 wins based upon the WAR projections most likely. Which matches my expectation for them in a 50th percentile kind of outcome.
     
  3. Nook

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    LOL Okay.... the Dodgers are not going to be 10th in wins unless a massive earthquake happens and swallows the Dodgers starting 9.
     
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    So fWAR is essentially oWAR from Baseball Reference (with no adjustment for DEFENSE.)

    So if your DEFENSE is lousy, your fWAR is HIGHER than bWAR.
    If your DEFENSE is outstanding, your fWAR is LOWER than bWAR.

    This is a good thing to know if you're debating someone fixated on fWAR.

    Of course you could be debating someone with dislexia who thinks Eovaldi has an fWAR of 6.7 when he has an fWAR of 1.0 and a bWAR of 1.5.
     
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  5. IdStrosfan

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    Hey @Nook or anyone else with insight.

    Have you heard anything recent on the Grandel talks/interest?

    It feels like that one came and went quickly.
     
  6. Joe Joe

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    This is not correct. fWAR for pitchers uses defense independent stats to develop its number (i.er., they don't need to account for defense as they started without it). rWAR starts with run prevention stats and then tries to take defense out of the calculation to get a pitcher's contribution. Defense is highly variable. A lot of the best pitchers in rWAR are just guys who had a lot of balls hit right at poor defenders which artificially inflates their rWAR (rWAR Logic: Sweet Jesus, Roughed Odor was able to make the play...Lance Lynn must be the most amazing pitcher).

    For batters, both fWAR and rWAR incorporate defense. I think rWAR tries to account for level of competition (defense, pitcher), but I'm not 100% on it. I like fWAR better because level of competition has way too much noise it for it to be useful for a sample size of only 600 or so PAs.
     
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  7. Marshall Bryant

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    • PLAYER bWAR fWAR dWAR WAR/600 PA

    • ALTUVE, Jose 5.1 6.6 (1.2) 5.1

    • PEÑA, Jeremy 4.8 3.4 2.4 5.2

    • ALVAREZ, Yordan 6.8 6.6 (0.4) 7.3

    • BREGMAN, Alex 4.5 5.5 0.0 4.1

    • TUCKER, Kyle 5.2 4.7 0.8 5.1

    • ABREU, Jose 4.2 3.9 (0.9) 3.7

    • BRANTLEY, Michael 1.3 1.2 0.0 2.8

    • McCORMICK, Chas 1.3 2.0 (0.3) 1.9

    • MALDONADO, Martin 0.2 0.5 0.8 0.3
     
  8. jiggyfly

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    Set exspectations for what?

    That he was going to spend whatever it took to get these guys?

    I think people took what they wanted to hear from his words because I certainly did not get that.

    And its like everybody forgot that we got Abreu and that the off season is not over, anybody acting like some words at a press conference means they are owed something is acting like a spoiled brat and has forgotten how this team goes about its business.

    So let me get this straight, we are supposed to feel some kind of way after winning the WS because Crane has supposedly made some expectations of signings?

    Really?

    Do we need immediate gratification at all times?

    Do you all hear yourselves?
     
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  9. jiggyfly

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    Dude people have been saying it is personal for 2 years and it is being said over the last 2 pages just because you want to ignore it does not mean it's not being said.
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    Agree on the Urquidy. The projections have not liked Javier and Urquidy historically, and on top of that I think those WAR numbers are FIP based and not RA-9 based.
     
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    Oh should we tell them about that... She can cause a few problems
     
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    No I haven't.

    I know that the White Sox were shopping him really intently earlier and trying to get someone to basically take his contract off their hands.

    The fact I haven't heard anything recently means that the Sox either found no one willing to take him or their interest in trading him was with the intent to sign someone else.
     
  14. IdStrosfan

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    Thanks.
     
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    Delete - dup.
     
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    Somebody's been getting massages...



    Deshaun be like - Carlos, you doin it wrong man...
     
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    ;)
     
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    There's our LF/SS/2B/DH utility guy.
     
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