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[Developing] Nancy Pelosi's husband violently beaten with hammer

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Oct 28, 2022.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    no. telling people what to do is simply rude

     
  2. fchowd0311

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    No it isn't lol. It's literally the most obvious implication to anyone who isn't socially handicapped that the implication of free will is there.


    "You should" could have been said before but I've seen hundreds of imperative statements to other posters that did not make you rustle your jimmies.


    I guess you had to come to the rescue for your best friend.

    Or you just care about me that much.
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    What a surprise when mentality unstable people do things that don't make sense.
     
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  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Yes, I guess the most logical explanation is that this person was not acting in a logical or rational way.

    As @tinman and I stated from the beginning, seems like the main driver of this guy's actions was his mental illness and maybe drug abuse.

    But there were quite a few posters who tried to make it seem like the main driver was that he is MAGA.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Can't it be both? Isn't it possible he spiraled into a position where he was more susceptible to rhetoric?
     
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    I guess it can be what people want it to be.
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So...you're saying that it can only be both if people want it to be? Can't it be both because it actually is both? For example, some of the MAGA crazies that are being sentenced for their actions on January 6th, have publicly said they can't believe they were "duped" by Trump and the rhetoric being spewed. Reasonable people got caught up in all of the blatant lies and behaved in ways they never would otherwise.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    No, that's not what I am saying. It can actually be both. It could also be both that he is mentally ill and politically left-wing, but believes in conspiracy theories in which some people from the right also happen to believe.

    It could be a lot of things. We will find out.

    But it is very clear that people on the left WANT HIM TO BE MAGA,
     
  9. Nook

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    So is it known for sure if Mr. Pelosi and this homeless guy were a gays and caught in the act?

    Mike Gundy said OAN reported that Pelosi and the crazy guy were docking each other.
     
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    The evidence explains they were. By evidence, I mean they lived in the bay area. That proves it for sure.
     
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    If you are a liberal why would you want people to be MAGA?

    Are liberals blaming the political rhetoric of the right for an attempted assassination of Nancy Pelosi that ended up with a hammer to the head of her husband? Yes. Is that blame coming out of this air or is it coming from crap like this we’ve seen over and over for years:


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/29/paul-pelosi-attack-republicans-target/

    No. Obviously as reported in the link above in a very well condensed way. The fact is Nancy Pelosi is a target for violence because of right wing violent rhetoric.

    Does far left rhetoric also criticize her for things like insider trading… yes, but I’ve never seen left wing ads with guns talking about “taking out” Nancy Pelosi or anything close to the gun fetish propaganda that the right constantly puts out.

    In the end, despite who you blame, no objective person who cares about keeping a peaceful democracy can look at what the WaPo has condensed in that article and say to themselves that what the right wing does to promote obviously violent rhetorical propaganda aimed at political opponents is just fine and dandy. It doesn’t matter if it’s AOC herself that committed the act of violence because it’s the right that is dialing up the violent rhetoric and conspiracy theories that makes people like Pelosi a target for assassination in the first place.
     
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  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    And people on the right WANT HIM TO BE INVOLVED IN A KINKY GAY RELATIONSHIP WITH PAUL PELOSI.

    (did I do that right?)
     
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    No.
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    Yes
     
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  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Seriously? Go look at twitter. Look at the right wing media types like Carlson and others. They are still speculating it was a gay love fest.
     
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    Hence why I suggest people not to respond to ATW in good faith here. There is no sincerity to his rhetoric on this. He's just at the end of the day trying to disconnect the attacker's media consumption to his media consumption.
     
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    Maybe a few.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Including you until people were making fun of your ability to discern credible information online by saying we have sources that maybe confirm you are a pedo and you got angry and tossed the table and stopped that narrative.

    In reality I don't think you actually sincerely believed it was a possibility. You were just doing the traditional right wing tactic of "just asking questions".
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Define "a few". You know the MAGA crowd are just salivating hoping something will turn up.

    It's disingenuous of you to downplay it while promoting the folks on the left want him to be MAGA.

    In all sincerity, which of those 2 scenarios is most likely true?
     
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