So you definitely don't want Scherzer (7-7 in 22 starts in the playoffs.) OK, who is getting $43M to win in the WS? The only fair thing is for every person in the minors to walk away with debt for the cost of teaching them. But since most will never be able to pay that back, 6 years of possibly being underpaid is sort of like a tax of the rich to pay for the poor. Now if you don't like the owners being rewarded because baseball teams have become low risk businesses, then that is a different argument. Some sports now get to argue about how to calculate a percentage of earnings and what should be included because they agreed to a percentage of earnings which is to go to the players.
Trying to be patient? WTF? If we do nothing else we will be favorites to win the WS, man you all are some brats. I just don't understand the mindset of a lot of posters They just might make some noise in the postseason, we can only hope.
But it’s still likely an overreaction as he’s had dominant playoff starts overall and was fine in the 2017 WS. It’s not necessarily a “mental” thing… but people have come to the conclusion that he’s physically unable to pitch in WS games, and thus he’s not worth the salary. This fan base has single-handedly gone year to year by declaring Framber was a mental head-case in the playoffs… to he’s the most reliable guy when the pressure is at its highest.
He certainly got shelled this past postseason, but if you look at his 2 previous postseasons, he had a 2.31 ERA and a 1.108 WHIP which is consistent with how he pitched overall in 2020 and 2021....so, completely different than Verlander's amazing regular season pitching and postseason struggles as of late that I've pointed out.
If the Astros are wanting him primarily for this year for $20MMish, then they are assuming he's going to be some semblance of his old self now. No point in signing someone to a one year deal for starter's money if you don't know if he can start.
At this point, I am not worried about whether Crane will enter into foolishly lavish deals. Or mortgage the future by overpaying in a trade. At this point, I want him to spend up to the tax line. I was mad he didn’t last offseason (@wuhornlaw), but perhaps that was attributable to Click. Well Click is gone now. I want Crane to spend bc it seems fairly clear he won’t overspend. Is he one that pockets the $$? look, I’m not mad at the guy. Best owner in Houston sports history and we are coming off a title. But show me you’ll spend more Jim.
The problem is they were aggressively pursuing bad contracts like that of Contreras. Why is that I have no idea. The lack of a GM is probably front and center for the reason. If you would have just focused on Vazquez as the answer at catcher then we would have had him. But we showed him no love for some inexplicable reason. There's ball dropping and then there's this. Our aggressiveness cost us in this situation.
Yeah I was reading a few other teams view on their off season thus far. They are pissed their owners are getting nothing done. Basically Mets are they only fans happy.
Since when have the Astros needed to win the off-season? They've made moves at the trade deadline every year.
Typical overreactions in here. That being said, if you can fill a need by simply signing a player (vs. trading prospects and still paying their salary), that’s one way to keep all options as open as possible. 2019 would have likely been better had they just signed Charlie Morton vs. giving up prospects and payroll for Zack Greinke (could have then focused more on the bullpen at the deadline).
Some of you guys just blindly worship the astros no matter what. We overpaid for montero. That's a fact. He wasn't even our #3 reliever coming out of the pen during playoffs. He was awful. We could've his money to Vasquez and it would've been much better spent. Stop this "astros never overpay" when we literally just did a month ago.
Um he was very much the #3 reliever coming out of the pen in the playoffs, and in fact, when our closer went down in the season he became our closer... not sure how that doesnt make him at least top 3 over all. At the time of signing, I may have agreed slight overypay, but after how FA has gone, I am happy with it. And it helps having consistency in the pen since we lose Neris and Stanek after next year.
I think adding a guy who caught a no hitter in one WS game and drove in a big run in game 6 was a pretty big win.
If he doesn't spend now, (I think he's got another move or 2 he will make) he will spend at the deadline.
This is first year in a while that Astros had significant money that could be spent on bringing in talent that was not on the team in previous years(once JV wasn't signed) . I wasn't hoping for winning free agency. I was hoping for the following: Enough in free agency to spoil any other AL West FA signings/trades for the near future. Get enough players for next three years to let the next GM have time to rebuild farm without needing to make too many trades. Extensions...though this is more for later in the offseason. Usually, I'm more for bargain hunting. I think this team is really great and can mostly be kept intact through 2025 (with Altuve and Bregman being the big exceptions). I'm not for completely going all out for these next three season, but they should be the priority.
