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Krysten Sinema comes out

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Dec 9, 2022.

  1. basso

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    as an independent.



    would definitely hit
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Was going to get primaried and lose.

    From Green party candidate to fossil fuel lobbyist

    Catch you later.
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    The American Dream
     
  4. Reeko

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    this is like when Tulsi Gabbard came out as a Republican…b*tch, we’ve been knowing this whole time, u weren’t fooling anyone
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Addition by subtraction for Democrats
     
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  6. Andre0087

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    Don't all the "independents" in the Senate still caucus with the Democrats?
     
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  8. Reeko

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    she just parrots all the right wing talking points, is a regular on Fox News, and campaigns for the likes of Kari Lake…but she claims she’s an “independent”

    I see she still wants to play games

    it’s like a SOF claiming they’re actually a Rockets fan

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  9. Lil Pun

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    This really shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.
     
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    In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    A distinction without a difference in her case.

    It's a real shame. Tulsi was a rare rising star for Democrats until 2018 or so.

    At first her discontent was a result of mistreatment from establishment media and Democrats.

    Then COVID hit and she began tumbling down the mountain of her own accord.

    Now she's in the gravity of audience capture and part of the braindead "just asking questions" caucus.

    The "disaffected liberal" media-sphere is an extremely lucrative hustle. I don't blame her at all for leaving the Democratic party (much as I have), but I find her embrace of the worst parts of the right to be unforgivable. Compare her life post-Dem party to someone like Andrew Yang and you can tell instantly who has pure intentions vs. selfish interest.
     
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    Wish everyone was an independent.

    She has been playing a weird game. Maybe trying to be a McCain but failing at it.
     
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    if you leave your party you need to resign and run again

    voters elected you with the presumption you were a member of a certain party
     
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    Its pretty obvious what she's doing here. She gambled that Arizona would still be a 50-50 state where her weird idiosyncratic behavior would be rewarded. She likely thinks of herself as some sort of Democratic version of John McCain.

    But this theory has largely been disproven and she knows it.

    1. Mark Kelly won re-election easily and other Democrats won statewide. Arizona is zooming leftwards and its looking more likely that any half decent Democrat can win her seat (especially with Republicans nominating crazy people). So all of her weird voting behavior has no payoff.

    2. Her standing among Democrats in the state has collapsed and its all but certain she'd lose her primary.

    So she's come up with an ingenous solution. By becoming an independent and caucusing with the Democrats she has created a mutually assured destruction scenario. If Democrats nominate a strong candidate in 2024, she'll still run and split the vote, giving the seat to Republicans. So Democrats effectively can't nominate anyone out of fear of losing the seat.

    So instead of becoming the next John McCain, she's now the new Joe Lieberman (who also ran as an independent towards the end after the Connecticut Democrats had enough of him).
     
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    I would rather lose the seat than let her continue to play games.

    But yeah she is trying to thread that needle.
     
  17. Commodore

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    If she continues to caucus with Schumer it won't have changed much, no different than "independents" Bernie and Angus King

    if there is any chance she would split the anti-GOP vote in 2024, Dems will not field a candidate
     
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    I feel like it's quite dishonest to take democrats money that funded her campaign and got her there in the first place to now quit the party.
     
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    Maybe when they chased her to the restrooms finally made her quit the Dems?
     
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    Except if Dems nominate her, they will lose anyway. Sinema would lose to any republican candidate, she is wildly unpopular and enough Dems will refuse to vote for her.
     

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