Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

If you are correct, then every crazy power hungry Presidential candidate from now on will know sedition, conspiracy, insurrection incitement, and the order to charge the Capitol in an attempt to take power will not hesitate to do it do it know they won't get convicted.

 

Republicans protect their own. U wonder y the impeachment process failed both times for trump? Im quite confident that a smart extremist republican can overthrow our government if he somehow got elected first as president, his republican buddies will just stand by and watch as long as they get paid

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/29/us/politics/oath-keepers-trial-verdict-jan-6.html

Guilty of seditious conspiracy. This shows legally why it was more than just some crazy rioters. It has been proven in a court of law. It was seditious conspiracy. It's been almost 3 decades since anyone in the United States had been convicted of Seditious Conspiracy.

It is amazing that so many keep trying to present this as something random, unpredictable, and just rioters.

It wasn't. It was part of a seditious conspiracy.

 

"proof" and "court of law" are separate issues. OJ Simpson was found not guilty

 

Too bad he doesn't demand that Trump release all of the TS documents he illegally took.

Too bad that he doesn't demand that Trump honors the J6 subpoena

 

But that was because the prosecution failed to prove their case. Being found 'not guilty' isn't proof of innocence.

In these cases the prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that they were guilty of seditious conspiracy.

 

a more accurate and precise way of expressing the point is that they were found guilty of seditious conspiracy

 

Which means beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

You're carving out a rationalization that he might not be actually guilty?

 

no. logical/linguistic point about "proof"

 

But why do you want to make a logical/linguistic argument about "proof" right now in this context? Are you actually having a different conversation than the rest of us, or are you engaged in some rhetorical sleight of hand to muddy the understanding of what proving one's guilt in criminal court actually means?

 

the original statement I responded to was "It has been proven in a court of law."

 

Is this another one of those "Investigate the Investigators" things? How did Durham go for these guys last time?

Or is it they think the J6 committee is sitting on classified or DOJ investigation sensitive material that isn't public yet that they can release with a ready to go FoxNews counter narrative in order to screw with investigations?

Oh wait... it's so they can expose the hidden evidence that it was actually Antifa all along??

Since you are obviously plugged here with your right wing propaganda, please tell us why this is newsworthy? I mean why wouldn't the incoming Congress not want records to be preserved, and not destroyed?

 

They already appointed one.

Also it changes nothing in terms of Congress’ ability to investigate any DOJ employees or investigation. If anything appointing a special counsel makes Congress’ role more vital because they have a role if there is a break between the special counsel and AG Garland Congress is notified while that doesn’t happen with a normal line prosecutor. That’s really all that the Special Counsel statute does anyway. Makes it harder for an AG to squash a prosecution because Congress would be notified and the AG would look unethical.

To the conspiracy theory you are trying to push though…

You’ll be happy to know that the committee has already announced that they’ll be making every piece of evidence acquired available even to the public by Christmas. So if there is evidence that it was secretly Antifa or whatever stupid theory you want to believe, you’ll be able to see that evidence yourself soon.

Or you can just continue to be a mindless drone who only listens to idiots on Twitter who don’t even know that a special counsel was appointed.

 

Any time Congress wants info or transparency, DOJ will just say "can't answer, ongoing investigation"

They've been running this playbook since the Mueller investigation.

 

Sure and everything the DOJ did from 1870 to 2018 just screams unmatched transparency. Especially during the J Edgar years.

No new laws or regulations or constitutional powers have been created or changed since 2017. If Congress isn’t using their constitutional powers to regulate then that’s on them, and if you’ve followed my post history I’ve been very vocal that Congress should take back that power they’ve seeded to the executive branch because of placating the political power of the president.

That and they just don’t actually want to do that much because they don’t want to give a future opponent anything to run against them on.

But that being said, you haven’t been paying attention to what McCarthy has been telling you he’s going to do (impeachments galore) and you didn’t pay attention to the Benghazi years. If you think the line prosecutors are thrilled about Benghazi 2.0 witch hunts then you’re not too bright. Keep in mind that Kevin McCarthy will put the most partisan Republicans on the intel committee and they’ll have access to basically any classified information they want to see and we all know how leaky Congress is.

 

You're next Mr. Traitor in a suit!!

 

He got away with not testifying at his own hearing.

Doesn't matter if Javanka through him under the bus, his followers only care about how Ivanka looks.