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The Athletic: Bruno Fernando Will Start Over Sengun When He Returns

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sengun, Nov 11, 2022.

  1. DaDakota

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    We won last night, right?

    DD
     
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  2. SamFisher

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    Ok, so tell me the context then - how does Usman Garuba manage to post a minus 4 and score 0 points and only get 2 rebounds in a game in which the Rockets led by 20- 30 until garbage time and in which there were a zillion rebounds to be had?

    I mean, if Fernando s negative plus minus in limited minutes bad - surely Usman's goose egg and negative number in a walkoff, blowout victory is even worse by your logic.

    But this would presume good faith and that plus minus isn't basically bullshit without context, which it is unless you believe Jalen Green is the worst player in the NBA
     
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  3. AlperenSengun

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    Of course not! You can spot the same type of bad management from miles away that sent clutch and the other Houston writer talking points on why Bruno should start last time alpi was benched. They are just idiots and how alpi reacted both times is underrated. He is very strong mentally.
     
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    Nah, I'm good. You can go study the context if you like, you're a grown ass man acting like there's a stat that doesn't say anything at all ever.

    Oh and yes it's fine for Usman to have a bad game and it's fine for Jalen Green's +/- to be bad vs THE LEAGUE lol. Who the hell looks at league rankings of +/-? It's a lineup stat. See this is what I mean, you don't know what to do and you think everyone is like you. We're good, we know how to look at it. It's really confusing for you so it's better you don't do it. You're 100% right that the stat is useless to you.
     
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    Clutch and the other writers aren't idiots...I don't think that's what you meant, though?
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Great job team!

    DD
     
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  7. AlperenSengun

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    No I meant the rockets management are idiots in their way of handling things.
    I don’t follow clutch or the other guy enough to comment on them. But a lot of the other stuff from Clutch I came across on this board were 10 times better than that write-up. I don’t know how it worked out but it wasn’t a good look for them either to talk about the same talking points without any justification other than Bruno is a lob threat before Bruno starting was announced publicly.
     
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    So can we conclude that what Alpi needs is an improved vertical instead of a 3-pt.er? He ain't achieving anything unless he's a lob threat?
    (Please somebody post Bruno's career 3pt% so we can have a laugh.)
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Yeah, I'm a real big advocate of using raw plus minus to grade players

    Etc etc etc. If i posted all the times i complained about folks using raw plus minus, id get so bored i might start using it just to change things up.
     
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  10. Rinaldi

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    The boss around here (in one of the last streams this week) suggested to rather have Sengun traded at the end of season since he doesn't fit, according to himself and Silas. Roosh completely disagreed and it was a long discussion. He is like the voice of Silas around here. That is his opinion, still shouldn't be called an idiot. He's looking at the big picture. A trade he suggests might actually be beneficial both for the Rockets and Sengun himself.
     
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  11. DaDakota

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    No one should get too attached to ANY player on the Rockets, within 4 years we may only have 1 or 2 of these guys left.

    If a Superstar gets tired of his org, we may trade anyone to get them.....just enjoy the development.

    DD
     
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  12. AlperenSengun

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    I did not call him an idiot and I explicitly stated it.
     
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  13. Rinaldi

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    Live on that streaming channel a few minutes ago, Clutch and DD again agreed that they feel Sengun needs to be traded, comparing him to Enes as usual. After the 52 performance. Yes, after the 21-19-7-3-2 performance. I wouldn't hire any of them as a scout. I guess he has some insider info and Silas' treatment matches with his (Clutch) words.

    "We won last night, right?" - tell that to him.

    Of course trades will happen, yet in the future all these Warriors/Suns wanna-be teams won't become the Warriors. Let me know when Bruno reaches 20 efficiency and play 20+ minutes for 10 games, then I will be sold.
     
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    He didn't say that Sengun needed to be traded, he said, he could see him being traded.

    My god you Senguknights are so damn sensitive.
     
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    Clutch and especially double D thoughts aren't gospel.

    Trading Sengun is the dumbest thing i have recently heard just b/c he doesn't "fit". U mold the team around the superior talent, not give up on it.

    Talented big men don't grow on trees, unless u are getting a boat load of assets back from what we gave up to acquire Sengun, we at least should develop him to see the final product. Giving up on him before his rookie contract is even up is dumb as fk.

    Im glad, we don't see Clutch post often cause he would have been clowned on as much as double D with these awful takes. Hopefully our front office don't have the same ideas as these two.
     
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    I guess they don't want to be champion otherwise they would not suggest the trade.
    The problem in modern world is we think everybody thinks logical. Unfortunately not. Some people are happy to live under monarchies as subjects, some women are happy to be 4th wife of a man, some people belive Santa Nicola was from Finland. You can't educate everyone.

    And there are extremes: discussing Alpi's defend after 5 blocks game or trying to trade him after 21/19/7/3/2. Just leave them alone.Give them Trey Murphy III, give them Bruno Fernando as starter ( I like Bruno as back-up), give them S.Silas and thanks to God/Tengri/Adonai/zeus (whatever you believe) for not being one of them.

    Opinion is cheap, facts&figures are hard (expensive). Just check the facts and the figures , leave them with their opininons.
     
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    KJ can be that lob threat that Fernando provides while still starting Sengun.
     
  19. D-rock

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    Take that for data.

     
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  20. DaDakota

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    No we said that we could see the org moving Sengun or that they MIGHT want to trade him to clear the room for Green and KPJ - not that we wanted him traded.

    Ridiculous the SOFs are reaching Jeremy Lin status.

    DD
     
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