Russian Missiles land on Poland

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My understanding is that these were Iranian garbage missiles that are very inaccurate, and had to be launched from the Black Sea. Hitting a powerline that is 8 inches wide doesn't sound like Russia's MO for military precision.

Russia is reliable though with patterns in their military targeting. Whether it be energy infrastructure, hospitals & children's playgrounds (for the mental terrorist angle), or supply lines out West, usually we see a consistency in targeting, and we'll see real soon if targeting NATO neighboring countries will be a thing.

They are reliable in being able to hit a giant power plant or the side of a hospital.... not so much in being able to hit an actual powerline. Especially with crappy Iranian drone missiles. These aren't Tomahawk missiles we are talking about.

 

My guess is this an accident but there is still a lot not known out of this. I do think NATO will move missile defense systems up closer to the Ukrainian border and am surprised they haven't already given that missiles were already landing not far from NATO territory in western Ukraine.

 

It wasn't a "shahed" AKA "moped".

It appears to have been one of the hypersonic missiles launched from an airplane, like a Kh-101, with an outside chance it was an S-300 (the objection to this being the crater was too big for the size of the warhead). There are photos of the remains online and they were pretty clearly Russian missile fragments.

 

We've had worse decades. Well over 500,000 members of our military in Vietnam, most of them draftees, not volunteers, which is what we have now, thank god.

It's a horrific several months for Ukraine, however. In my opinion, we should move our high tech anti-air systems right up to the Ukrainian border and shoot down every Russian/Iranian missile or drone within range that enters Ukrainian airspace. That should protect much of western Ukraine, not to mention members of NATO, including Poland.

I think this took us by surprise. It was a deliberate act by Russia, in my opinion, very close to Poland's border with Ukraine. I doubt if we'll be taken by surprise again.

 

One of these day, Twitter or something like it will start a war.

 

It's entirely possible, especially if the generic term "the internet" is included. Heck, it's not impossible that Vladimir's mad act of invading a sovereign European democracy was influenced by sources residing on the internet. The weak NATO/Western response to Putin's sudden coup in Crimea, trumpeted all over the internet, could have influenced Mr. Putin, for example.

That weak response has to be laid at the feet of President Obama, unfortunately. Not his only foreign policy failure, in my opinion, but looking back at Crimea, it's difficult not to think that a far stronger response by NATO, led by the United States, might have caused Putin to "pass" on his inclination to embark on rebuilding the Soviet Union by conquering Ukraine. The USSR was always a Russian Empire by another name.

 

I don’t want NATO to respond directly but I would like NATO/US to sell the big boy munitions and weapons to Ukraine. Those HIMARs have ammunition with much greater range that the US has been holding back.

 

While I agree, we have to remember what the appetite for US foreign escalation was in 2014.

I also think our military in 2022 is in a much better place.

On the other hand, Europe was even more delusional about Russia in 2014. Realpolitik… the Russian invasion of Ukraine allowed the US to have a much stronger response.

 

I feel fine.

 

According to AP from the US it was likely launched from Ukraine to try and intercept a missile launched at Ukraine. Which makes a ton of sense. Also makes sense that it’s not a crummy Iranian garbage missile since Ukraine has been supplied with some fairly advanced stuff.

Wars tend to spill over. That’s fairly obvious now. Russia is still responsible though in the end. They didn’t directly strike Poland this time but they are indirectly affecting them in many ways.

 

Then the ones who lived came home to be spit on by their own people. Those poor guys never deserved the pain they went through during or after that war.

 

She really needs to take her Russian propaganda and go f*ck herself. Putin loving right wing MTG is irresponsible spreading this without knowing the facts.