The Athletic: Bruno Fernando Will Start Over Sengun When He Returns

nah it was false even last year
Senguns fouling rate never went over 6 fouls per 36 minutes in his nba career so basically you could have played him 30+ minutes every night...

 

how about tanking for 70 years straight?

you gotta stumble into a GOAT if youre tanking every year dontcha?

meanwhile miami heat went into finals and conference finals a shot from the finals with bunch of undraftees, late frps and second rounders...
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the Houston Clowns thats how this team should be called from now on... or the Houston Losers or perhaps the Houston Defeatists!!

 

Jabari hasn't been here long enough to come up for air yet .... yeah he's disappointed. Some of us pointed out his flaws in the draft evaluation process .... It's yet to be seen if Silas and Co can fix him.

Lets talk about the others who have played well / improved

KJM who's improved leaps and bounds since he got here. averaging 11-5

How bout Sengun who's putting up "superstar metrics" according to some.

Jalen Green .... the improvement he made from the beginning of last season to the end was miraculous and he's continued on an upward trend this year.

Tate came in as a nothing and has earned a 2nd contract and is a quality asset.

Garuba all the sudden looks like an NBA player .... he couldn't buy a minute on the court last year.

Tari Eason has been fantastic from day one.

Nix has improved, kid is shooting .455 from deep and has the highest steal rate among guards on the team.

KPJ has made huge strides as a player, some of the stats are crazy good averaging 18-6-4.

Gary Bird .... earned a contract with his play last season.

Bruno looked great before the injury and earned a multi year contract.

 

Nix is also shooting .250 2-point fg %. srsly

 

a great player for what the Houston Tanking Cowards do!
fits the coaching staff and other teammates to a t

 

AP should play 30 mins + or fire Silas

 

Guys what are you talking about?? Either your try to win games or you try to build the team for the next years! So if the team must carry Jabari Smith, why is Alpi the problem and you let a 25 years old standard player play. Its really stupid to talk about this situation. I hope they fire Silas and they oblige a good coach.
I shake my head and i cant believe what we are talking about! Alperen Sengün is a candidate to be an Allstar in the next years! I like Bruno and he is doing within the scope of his possibilities the best what can but this is his maximum!
Alpi didnt arrived his maximum! So if Alpi is a bench player in this bad team, so he must change the team!

 

Yes, they should be the same stats, but the numbers are wildly different. In Bruno's case, it looks like a typo, but probably it is not. Tari has +36 net rating on Bref, while -8.1 on nba.com with a +/- of -1. Again the nba rating is more aligned with reality. Bref's numbers are certainly wrong unless we are missing something fundamental.

Using ratings to judge individual players is not good anyways. It is suited to compare 5 man line-ups. But I am surprised to see such a big difference between the two sites' stats.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...plaining-advanced-offensive-stats-and-metrics

Note USG%.....one of the things I like about Jabari. Not needing to run plays
for him and being efficient is huge. Eventually Jabari will hit his shots.

 

I have a very good understanding of statistics and google. But you don't even understand what my question is. You are posting numbers all the time, without understanding what they mean.

Jabari has low usg% because he can't dribble, can't create for himself and is basically a catch and shoot player at the moment. He does need plays run him. If Houston does not succeed to get him the ball in the right places, his shots will not fall all that much. And he has terrible efficiency with 44% ts%. Low-usage has nothing to do with efficiency.

 

Wait, what?

 

Incorrect....I'm about greater success over what
you and others are pushing for....which is a dead end road.

The Jokic, Embiid, KAT, Sengun of the NBA win MVP's and individual
success but fail miserably in the playoffs because they can only play
drop coverage defense but are exploited in the playoffs by better teams
that have greater amount of 3-pt shooters along the perimeter that take
advantage of that poor rotation issue.

Now as more versatile mobile bigs enter the league.....it's spilling into
the regular season.

The cult or idol worshipping is on your side with Sengun only fans that refuse
to acknowledge his flaws.

KPj is just greatest option that we got.....give me Jaden Ivey to go with
Jalen Green and I would say we are on the right track. Other teams
on the right track are Detroit with Cade/Ivey....Hawks with Trae/Murray,
Boston with Smart/Brogdan, Warriors with Curry/Poole, Pacers with
Haliburton/Mathurin, Cavs with Garland, Mitchell, Kings with D Fox/Davion
Mitchell

If you have me a better option over KPj.....I would consider it.

**You are pushing Sengun post plays where every team that
has had Embiid, KAT, Jokic are reducing post play touches
because they know it's ineffective over the long haul.

Jokic is down to 4.3 touches in the post.....but Jokic can
operate at the 3-pt line.....Sengun sucks at 3.

KAT is down to 2.4 touches in the post....but KAT can
can operate near the 3-point line.....Sengun can't.

Lakers.....AD 4.4 post touches....LeBron 3.2 post touches
per game. Not a winning formula.

76ers.....Embiid is down to 5.7 touches in the post....
knowing that he can't do 11 touches in the post anymore
and be successful like he did in the past.
76ers are better running Harden/Maxey and getting
rid of MVP candidate Embiid.

Julius Randall 1.8 touches in the post
Nurkic 5.3 touches in the post
Valanciunas 4.2 touches in the post
Zion 5.1 touches in the post
Doncic 4.9 touches in the post
Vucevic 2.9 touches in the post

When a team gets about 90 possessions.....a player giving you 5 possessions
in the post is not worthy of building your team around when you
consider that player sucks at defense and spacing for others because
he is shooting about 25% from 3 on a lousy 1.2 attempts.
Just like last year we have Sengun defender sitting in the paint
mucking up things for KPj and Green to operate.

Sengun averages 3.8 touches in the post and I'm fine with less
than 6 attempts per game.,...but Sengun has to get better.

But I get it....you think he is cute and you have a man-crush on him.
That's important to you. Not to me.

 

He's awful

 

The game is going away from small mobile centers that can “switch” (really aren’t any that can), there are more teams going multiple big routes right now than at any point in last 5 years.
3 pt shot is still a necessity, I will agree with that. Alp needs to shoot with more confidence

 

I would want to develop Eason on Offense before Jabari.

Would be great to have a hustling Metta WP.

Great trade asset at that too.

 

He should get minutes, but I understand the argument to having him come off the bench.

The team currently has only 2 players that can competently run an offense, KPJ and Sengun. There was hope Green would step up his game and be a third, but thus far that hasn't been the case.

As such, you need to have either KPJ or Sengun on the court at all times. Having Sengun come off the bench would allow that to happen and could maximize the players on the roster.

 

I’m not even against Alp coming off the bench, him KJ and Tari will dominate. But…….in no stretch should he get less minutes than Bruno. Alp is arguably the best player on this team right now, and the second youngest. In no universe should Bruno Fernando development be more important than Alp.

In all honesty the development of KPJ, Alp and Green as a trio should be paramount, to see if there’s an actual future with it.

 

Not just eason, KMJ and Garuba too. It has become clear to me that right now these players are the actual strength of this roster and they are hard to find pieces. Jabari can end up being much better than these players, but it is okay to accept he might not develop very fast and pushing it won't really help that much.

 

No, I wouldn't want to cut Sengun's minutes, just create a slight stagger so that you can keep someone capable of running an offense on the court at all times.

I'm skeptical about Sengun long term, since he's already so limited athletically, but that's a potential problem many years down the line. He should certainly be one of the top players to develop.

 

It is not a starter, non-starter thing, it is about minutes. though I would still start Sengun. My priority for the team now, is getting Tari, KMJ and Garuba more minutes and see how Sengun-KPJ-Green perform with them. That would mean Bari, Gordon and Bruno getting less minutes. That's why I think about Bruno as a back-up big who gets 10-18 minutes depending on the match-ups.