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The ONE--ALL Rule (track it continuously)

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Houstunna, Nov 11, 2022.

  1. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    Baseball stats say the winning-team scores more runs in ONE inning than the loser scores in ALL other innings combined in 70% of games

    This statistic played out in Astros vs Philly (4 of 6... 66%)

    This is somewhat phenomenal to me. We've all heard the term "avoid the big inning". Okay. But I didn't think that inning was that drastic. The loser had 9 innings to at least match the big inning

    ~70% is the number

    Track it. It's wild

    Off top.... every shutout is ONE-ALL
     
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    ~70% is the number.....

    Astros are 13-11.... so 24 games

    The ONE-ALL has happened 13 games of 24.... so only 54%

    As the season progresses, and a higher sample size happens, time will tell how close to 70%

    @sealclubber1016 @Buck Turgidson @bobrek @Joe Joe @Major @Nick

    Still amazing how ONE-ALL happens more times than not
     
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    Larry Dierker was the first guy I ever heard talk about that and I was amazed. I pay attention to that almost every time I'm at the ballpark and it seems to hit more than it misses for me.
     
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    Yeah, right....

    Dierker is 1980's and 90's mostly

    So, this same sentiment has been happening for 40 years...prob more

    I'm too lazy to investigate the entire history or even this year's teams

    But, most likely.... 70% prevails

    It's amazing. The only other similar stat, top of mind, in sports would be football turnover-battle
     
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    Quite amazing.
     
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    That's pretty amazing and a crazy stat. But I wonder how many of those are games like today - 1-0 or 2-0 type games that technically qualify (or really, any shutout).
     
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    Exactly what I was thinking
     
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    Well, at least you acknowledged the amazement before the BUT

    15 games were played in MLB today

    THREE were 1-0 or 2-0

    SIX other games besides those 3 were ONE-ALL

    SIX of fifteen = 40%

    Add the three 1-0, 2-0 games and it's 9 of 15... *60% not 66%*

    ~70% is the number

    Two games haven't finished. Neither game will finish 1-0 or 2-0. One game is on pace for ONE-ALL and the other still has easy opportunity, but even if those games don't match the ONE-ALL sentiment... the number right now today is 60%

    So.... considering the 1-0 and 2-0 vs the other ONE-ALLs (3 vs 6) there's twice as many other ONE-ALL games vs 1-0 and 2-0 games


    *edit - Damn I messed up some that math... smh. One of the final two games was ONE-ALL... 10 of 15 games = 67%
     
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    Okay. You choose the hypocrite route
     
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    Huh? Lol
     
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    Your own words. Sad
     
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    I was thinking of the 4 run rule. If you score 4 or more, you tend to win. If you score less than 4, you tend to lose. Not an absolute, but a probability. I'm too lazy to do a statistical analysis or even comment on the validity of someone else's statistical analysis. But I do wonder if it would also approach 70%.

    Small sample of 24 games for the Astros this season:

    In wins scoring 4 or more - 13 of 14. 93%

    In losses scoring less than 4 - 8 of 11. 73%
     
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  13. Houstunna

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    First team to 100

    #hoops
     
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    Dude…what are you talking about? Are you being humorous?
     
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    I said "hypocrite" and "your words"

    Here, you had zero problem giving props to 1-0 shutouts. You even added the "4th and 5th starter" sentiment and "best offense" caveat to add the awesomeness

    Here, you wanna downplay the same 1-0 shutout and ONE-ALL in general

    "Your own words" are hypocritical


    Fact is, ONE-ALL exists regardless if it was 1-0 or 2-0 or 2-1 or whatever disingenuous argument you wanna make

    I was wrong in my previous post. Larry Dierker was 1960's and 70's and beyond into the 90's. So, ONE-ALL has likely been happening for 60 years minimum, probably longer

    ONE-ALL

    ~70% of MLB games

    Be humorous and disingeuous
     
  16. Tomstro

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    one post has absolutely zero to do with the other. You should probably try to relax
     
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    INCREDIBLE STAT!!!!
     
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    Deflection and denial will always be a weak position

    The same weak position doesn't manifest well in a courtroom on a witness stand when a lawyer @Nook challenges the sentiment meticulously

    But hey... we're just internet'ing right now. Do your thing
     
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    "ALL for ONE.... and ONE for ALL"

    ONE-ALL
     
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    WORLD STAR baby!
     
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