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2022 Midterms

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Xerobull, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. CCorn

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    So nothing
     
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    Kevin McCarthy live on Fox News now.
     
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    We don’t have a two party system. We lack ranked choice style voting so parties consolidate to win the vote. But even within the Dem party there are like 5 different parties. States like Alaska now have ranked choice voting so it’s not like it’s not gaining popularity. Sounds like you are just someone who probably doesn’t follow politics. Maybe both sides suck in reality but I would challenge you to show a little more intellectual curiosity to the debate. It’s more complicated and nuanced than the whole popular “everyone sucks” tagline. That’s a position that is intended to not ever take a position or engage in a real debate.
     
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  4. CCorn

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    Trumps endorsement is a death wish. Primaries are going to be hilarious.
     
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    If Democrats pull out the Senate, which currently seems likely according to the NYT, the GOP infighting over Trump is going to get started in earnest before 2024. DeSantis should be able to make a compelling case that the man is a loser, picks losers and will continue to cause unforced errors in places Republicans should win. Hitching the wagon to a man who won by a narrow electoral college margin in 2016 and who continues to cause ruin wherever he goes is insanity.

    Will any of our more, uh, stubborn posters here finally admit this?
     
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    AroundTheWorld Insufferable 98er
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    Any reasonable observer will deduce from this that Trump is the problem and DeSantis the solution for the Republicans.
     
  10. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    2024 just got really damn interesting.

    Given last night's Republican faceplant, faith in the Trump train has to be considerably shaken.
     
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    Where’s this “massive red wave” I’d been hearing so much about?

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    how it started



    how it’s going

     
  14. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    DeFuture had won by more than 1.5 million votes. Crazy!
     
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    Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
     
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  16. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.
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    In 2024, 23 Democratic Senate seats are up for re-election with only 10 Republicans up at the same time.

    If the Republicans get their act together, 2024 could be monumental for them with 100% control of Washington.

    Noteables up for re-election (including last vote percentage):

    Krysten Sinema (50%) D-AZ
    Dianne Feinstein (possibly retiring, 54%) CA-D
    Angus King (54%) ME-D
    Debbie Stabenow (52%) MI-D
    Jon Tester (50%) MT-D
    Jacky Rosen (50%) NV-D
    Bob Menendez (54%) NJ-D
    Martin Heinrich (54%) NM-D
    Sherrod Brown (53%) OH-D
    Bob Casey (55%) PA-D
    Joe Manchin (49%) WV-D
    Tammy Baldwin (55%) WI-D

    Mind you, all of these folks last win was during 2018's blue wave... so if Republicans get any sort of momentum together for 2024, it could be a red tsunami.

    Meanwhile, the number vulnerable Republican seats is pretty small.

    Mike Braun (50%) IN-R
    Josh Hawley (51%) MO-R
    Ted Cruz (50%) TX-R
     
  17. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Please don’t lump Gen-X in with the younger Boomers.
     
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    He's completely worthless as I said. A fraud too
     
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    If the Republicans wanna regain some real power in 2024 and beyond, they have to move on from Trump, simple as that. That was clear to me back in 2020 and is even more obvious today. But they also need to refrain from returning to neocons. People like DeSantis are the path forward for them.

    The problem is, Trump, his orbiting grifters, and his ironclad MAGA base won't let the GOP move on from him. His narcissism and ego are too big, and his diehard supporters are Trumpers and nationalists first, and "Republicans" second. They love Trump because he's Trump, not because he has an "R" next to his name. And there's enough of them such that Trump will remain the overwhelming favorite in the 2024 GOP primary. And that's great news for the Dems in 2024, whether it's Biden running for reelection, or someone else. Yes, most people (including a significant majority of independents and many moderate Repubs) are unhappy with the current direction of the country and disapprove of Biden and many other Dems...but that doesn't mean that they want to return to the chaos of Trump. They still loathe him and his ilk.

    Despite the division in this country (some of it is overstated and even manufactured, IMO), I still think that the right kind of person could dominate in a presidential race. In the long term, pay attention to the demographic of people in their late 20s thru late 30s, and where they decide to live. People who are settling down, "putting down roots" somewhere...getting married, having kids, buying their first house if they can afford to, having a full-time job that they want to keep for awhile. Their worldview tends to solidify around this time in their lives. So it is likely that however they vote then...that's how they'll vote for the rest of their lives. Thus they are a key factor in shaping the future political direction of the US. And the recent trends from that group are not favorable to Republicans and to a lesser extent also not favorable to "establishment" and moderate Dems. They like true progressives (normal ones, not the crazy loons), that seem to truly care about regular people instead of corporations, big money donors, and endless war.

    Another big loser are polls, pollsters and pundits. They were wrong, big time. Even guys like Dave Wasserman (the "I've seen enough" guy on Twitter) were way off. Simply put, a whole lot of people - especially younger people - do not answer the phone to unknown or unfamiliar numbers. Plenty of them have their phones configured to block calls that aren't in their contact list. They ignore political texts and flag them as spam. They roll their eyes at the Nate Silver's of the world. And yet...they pay attention, they're aware of what's going on, and a lot of them vote. They're not burying their heads in the sand.
     
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  20. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    They’re both loudmouth assholes.
     
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