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[SI] Astro in Exile: Luhnow

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, Oct 13, 2022.

  1. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

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    when the media hates you, the rules for you are different. Make no mistake, none of this would've happened to Lunhow if he was the yankees or dodgers or sox GM
     
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    Fyreball Contributing Member

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    I do think everything in 2019 served as an eye-opener to Crane as to what the Astros culture had become under Luhnow. They handled the PR side of that stupid harassment issue about as poorly as they possibly could have, and it left a bad taste in a lot of the media's mouths. The ensuing cheating scandal also took Crane by surprise, and I think he really put the majority of the blame on Luhnow for how he handled that too.

    It's very clear that he's fought hard to bring a more positive, human element back into the clubhouse. Say what you want about Dusty's in-game management, but I don't think it can be denied that he's a genuinely good human being, and someone that the players have very clearly rallied behind. I have never seen the level of camaraderie that this 2022 team has in any of the previous years, and I think Dusty plays an enormous role in that. These guys have been galvanized by the hate, and I think Crane hired Dusty for exactly this reason. This team needed someone who wouldn't run away from the scandal, but would also be able to use their own personal reputation to shield the guys in the clubhouse a little bit. It's been beautiful to see guys like Bregman, Altuve, Lance, and even JV get their swagger back.
     
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  3. Wulaw Horn

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    Man, I don't think I buy most of this. That clubhouse has always been awesome going back to the days of club Astro and the Congerbot and burying Beltrans glove etc. I always got the sense they liked and respected AJ and played hard for him and loved being on the team with the guys they were on it with. That's been a great clubhouse for a long time.
    Don't disagree that Dusty is a good dude.
     
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  4. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

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    Were you not around when Crane first bought the team? They (Crane, business side, baseball side, everybody) made PR mistake after PR mistake... almost on a weekly laughable basis. They figured out how to avoid some of that by avoiding the media... and then when they started winning they were absolved of a lot of that.

    Crane has always had a pulse on his team. To say he was oblivious or "surprised" by the culture is fairly presumptuous. He helped foster some of the cutthroat culture himself. It very well could be how he prefers his team be run.
     
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  5. raining threes

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    Give me championships over the human element.
     
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  6. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Chris Correa and John Coppolella faced harsher consequences... granted for more serious crimes... but far less media scrutiny for their respective franchises.
     
  7. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

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    Cause nobody cares about them, they aren’t hated
     
  8. raining threes

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    I hope Crane wants his team run this way.

    It's bow the Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox etc... Do business.
     
  9. raining threes

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    That's how much the media hates Luhnow.
     
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    Why is this and Mozeliak must've known about the cheating so he should have been fired.

    At least that's the standard the media held the Astros, Luhnow too.
     
  11. vince

    vince Member

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    Amazingly well said!!!

    With that said, I would embrace Luhnow back as the GM in a heartbeat!
     
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    Great piece from Bob Nightengale

     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/05/sports/baseball/jeff-luhnow-astros-world-series.html

    The top 9 hitters and top 6 pitchers were all luhnow guys.

    The fact the Crane didn't want to pay Luhnow is so petty after all he did for the Astros.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    LOL why do you all get upset when it's pointed out you are wrong or have **** takes.

    Would rather be insufferable than just being flat out wrong most of the time.
     
  16. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

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    Ya, i have been a die hard houston sports fan since 1996. Nobody in any sport has meant to me what Jeff Luhnow has meant. If i had my own mount rushmore, he is the one who would be front and center.
     
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    Click resigned him, and it was not a no brainer call after the injury.
     
  18. jiggyfly

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    Why does he need to be better than expected, and he has been great as a set-up man, what more would you want?

    How has Raley been better than Stanek?
     
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