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[Yahoo] Racist Airlines? Joe Biden Says Charging For Extra Legroom 'Hits People of Color The Most'

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    Racist Airlines? President Joe Biden Says Charging For Extra Legroom Seats 'Hits People Of Color The Most'

    https://news.yahoo.com/racist-airlines-president-joe-biden-174435991.html

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    Is charging for extra legroom on planes correct? According to US President Joe Biden, this procedure is wrong and racist. In a recent announcement, Biden said airlines forcing air passengers to pay for extra legroom is racist because it hits ‘marginalized Americans and people of color the most.”

    Biden’s remarks were made one month after he announced the release of a new proposed law that would require airlines to disclose hidden fees before a customer purchases a ticket.

    The regulation will let passengers know all the exact costs in advance and thus can choose the best deal. The department is still working on forcing airlines into giving refunds for services like onboard WiFi that do not work.

    “The Department of Transportation is working on rules that would require airlines and travel sites to disclose fees up front, fees like things if you want to sit next to your young child. Well, guess what? Or check your baggage or change your ticket. You’re going to be surprised. They’re going to charge you for that without telling you. Your ticket is going to cost a heck of a lot more. I’m not saying they can’t charge it, but they got to let you know they’re going to charge it. You can make a decision”, Biden revealed that DOT is working on the main points of these new regulations.

    “Some airlines, if you want six more inches between you and the seat in front, you pay more money. But you don’t know it until you purchase your ticket. Look, folks, these are junk fees. They’re unfair, and they hit marginalized Americans the hardest, especially low-income folks and people of color. They benefit big corporations, not consumers, not working families. And that changes now”, he added.
    more at the link

     
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  2. dobro1229

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    Legroom debate aside, Spirit, Frontier, Sun Country, etc. all are guilty of providing a false budget friendly option to flying that does prey on people with less money. I don't know if there's anything inherently racist about it, but it is certainly a scam that preys on people, and I'm glad the Biden admin is going to be looking at mechanisms to at least make them disclose the actual cost of flying.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    So is this an article you don't endorse as meaningful and not clickbait?

    Or are you a fake professor because hard to believe a lib arts professor would have such poor reading comprehension


    Which one?

    “Some airlines, if you want six more inches between you and the seat in front, you pay more money. But you don’t know it until you purchase your ticket. Look, folks, these are junk fees. They’re unfair, and they hit marginalized Americans the hardest, especially low-income folks and people of color. They benefit big corporations, not consumers, not working families. And that changes now” -Biden

    That's the quote. Is he saying people of color are taller or....how about this for size?


    He's saying people of color are typically less well off statistically in the US therefore fees like this harm them more because the fees are a larger portion of their income.
     
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    Also it's a click bait headline. Biden's quite merely just says people of color are typically less well off therefore these fees are a larger portion of their income and harm them more disproportionately compared to white people in America. That's it. That's all he said.
     
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    They need to charge for people who take up two seats on southwest
     
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  7. Ziggy

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    I'm not white and I pay for extra legroom every time because I am tall, so, ROCK ON. EVIL JOE. Or DIRTY BIDEN. Or whatever yall call him? Dark Brandon? I don't know his name. He doesn't know his name. But planes ****ing suck. Capitalism is supposed to produce amazing user experience, not this **** we have in America. Virgin and Emirates fly in style. I gotta suck **** to luck into a Dreamliner.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    I think that is likely what Biden meant and as he typically does mangles his meaning. Fully agree though that airlines should be revealing in their advertising what they are charging ahead of time. I once flew from MSP to Denver on Frontier on an advertised price for $20. By the time I completed my booking it was $90. Still a cheap flight but going through all the billing options was a pain and misleading.

    Same thing too with ticket charges for sports and concerts. Almost a third of my ticket to WS game 2 was fees added by Stubhub that weren't listed in the original price.
     
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    That gimmick is used ANYWHERE. You can look up a door online and it'll says $2,000 but the dimensions are tiny, like 4ft by 1.5ft and once you dial-in a more realistic sizing (96inx30in), the price is suddenly $4,500. Not including shipping. GOOD LUCK
     
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    You're right truth in advertising is a big deal. That's why there are so many ads with the fast talking bits at the ends about "limited offer, offer only good at these locations, etc..."
     
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    Where did he say it was racist? I’m not giving clickbait a click
     
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    He's calling white people short and cheap (or poor) I think, kinda racist. Gotta read betwixt the lines.
     
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    This all sounds so very horrible.
     
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    thoughts and prayers for that demographic…no one over 6 ft should be forced to risk DVT in a cramped airplane with no leg room…long legs deserve better
     
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    Are you saying the regulation sounds horrible or the things it's addressing sound horrible?
     
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    Horrible that airlines would have to be honest and transparent with their customers and that customers would be able to pick the best deal for themselves.
     
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    I feel like if the Democrats never said "people of color" or "LGBT" ever again that the Republican party would literally cease to exist.
     
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    And those door prices hit people of color the hardest.
     
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    If you're implying that people with less money can't read, then yes those budget airlines might be racist and/or taking advantage of marginalized holiday travelers.
     
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    I tend to fly AA, not those airlines. what are they doing that's predatory?
     

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