MSNBC: Kerry/Edwards Already Takes 8-pt Lead

good points, the difference between Frist and T_J, bama is class. for example, just look at their comments above.

 

nyquil,

there you go again -- a liberal using "class" warfare!

 

Even I'm at a loss at how those "rich guys" that you describe convince jurors to stick it to corporations based on flimsy testimony. I guess it is that "screw those big corporations" nonsense that pervades the Southern ethos. Many of us don't like big govt (like me), but also there are plenty who despise "big, greedy corporations" as much as they disdain govt. I'm not fond of the reputation some parts of the South have earned as a tort hell. In fact, like I said before, that's why I'm a fervent supporter of tort reform, something that a fatcat lawyer (friend of the little guy my ass) Edwards would never approve of. He'd say that unlimited damage awards punish wrongdoers. No, Senator. They punish everyone with higher costs passed on by these "evil" corporations. Thanks to you, healthcare costs have skyrocketed and we have to import medical professionals thanks to you ambulance-chasing bastards.

B-Bob, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but all lawyers SEEM nice. I'm sure Frist is trying to be a decent human being by talking about what a good guy Edwards is, but shows me what a great guy Frist is than anything he is saying about Edwards.

And Sam, Pascagoula is named after a tribe known by that name. No Cherokees were involved. They once lived in the valley where I now reside in N. Ga.

 

okay, thanks for the reply, bama.
I hear you about lawyers (like Max!) but for what it's worth, I'll say this. The friend of mine in NC can smell a weasel three counties away, and if he can have dinner with Edwards and come away praising him, that means a ****load to me. I wouldn't expect you to jump up and down for opinions from *my* friends, but I'm only saying I think the guy is more than skin deep.

In the end, we can all hope that people will vote on policies and future plans -- not whether someone was a lawyer, CEO, or baseball owner before they entered politics.

 

But could you say the same about Kerry? I think that is a legit question, because old "Lurch" has some serious problems in the likeability dept. Edwards was supposedly brought along to shore that up.

 

sorry, I don't understand the question. I was saying I hope we can vote on policies and future plans.

But, as for Kerry, I have no first or second-hand knowledge. Just what the DNC and GOP are putting out about him, which is of course hard to reconcile. Here's what I have for the four of them, completely separate from policies.

Bush: shrug for me, personally. If he still drank, I'd like to catch a beer with him. If he said "newculer" for nuclear, I'd have to dump a pint on his head though. Could be a fun guy to hang with if he didn't know my voting record. I think he wants to do the right thing.

Kerry: shrug for me, personally. We might have a good conversation, but he might put me to sleep too. I think his heart's in the right place. He wants to do the right thing.

Cheney: just makes my blood run cold more than any other American could. I really find him as repugnant as possible. The smirk, the arrogance, his ability to turn against his own daughter, and his ability to look at our citenzenry and lie about life-or-death matters... yeah, I'd try to give a conversation a chance, but we'd be dropping F-bombs on one another in no time.

Edwards: I've stated my take. Based on what I know, I would trust him until significantly led to the contrary by evidence.

 

I wish that we could strictly vote on policy, but silly superficial things are what most voters go for. And when it comes to charm or at least delivering a speech that does put people to sleep, Kerry does not deliver in that regard. I wasn't making a value judgement, just a statement of fact. I mean, for crying out loud, that is why most congressmen get re-elected, on damned name recognition! If that isn't superficial, I don't know what is. I don't think Cheney is as nefarious as Michael Moore and these others would have you believe.

 

But of all the characters (save Rove) in the Administration, surely you can see why he is the one that seems most likely to be 'evil' by those you lump together as liberals, right? Rice, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Bush can all be seen as either misguided ideologically or dumb. Cheney is just too entrenched with too many interests. I mean, I don't really wonder about Bush himself making deals for his old business partners. He put all of them into chpt 11 with his mismanagement. Only GW could name his company Ar-BUSTO. Hilarious.

 

So much for that lead.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040708/D83MR9TG0.html

AP Poll: Bush Gains Slight Lead Over Kerry

By RON FOURNIER


WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush has opened a slight lead over John Kerry while regaining the confidence of some voters on the economy and other domestic issues, according to an Associated Press poll with a silver lining for Democrats.

The addition of Sen. John Edwards to Kerry's ticket appears to have helped the Democrat in the South and among low-income voters - a result the Massachusetts senator had hoped for when he selected the North Carolina populist over more seasoned politicians.

"I'm more impressed with Kerry now that he chose Edwards," said Republican voter Robin Smith, 45, a teacher from Summerville, S.C. "I look at Kerry and I don't trust him, but he's got Edwards, who's more middle-of-the-road, a strong speaker, more able to reach the common man."

The AP-Ipsos poll found Bush leading Kerry just outside the margin of error, with the president's support at 49 percent, Kerry at 45 percent and independent candidate Ralph Nader at 3 percent. The Bush-Kerry matchup was tied a month ago, when Nader had 6 percent.

The three-day survey began Monday, the day before Kerry tapped Edwards as his running mate, and asked registered voters about the newly minted ticket on Tuesday and Wednesday. Half supported the Republican tandem of Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney while 46 percent backed the Kerry-Edwards ticket, just within the question's margin of error.

Voters said they were feeling better about the economy and no worse about Iraq, a sign that Bush may be regaining his political footing just as Democrats make a high-profile push toward their nominating convention in late July.

"I want Bush in there, because the other guy is like sending a boy to do a man's job," said Glenn Foldessy, 45, of Streetsboro, Ohio, outside Cleveland. Foldessy, who usually votes Republican, said Edwards made the Democratic ticket stronger, but not strong enough.

"We have somebody now who's established and has things on track and if we destabilize this government during the war on terror, that's playing right into the hands of the terrorists," he said.

Troubling signs for the incumbent remain, however, from the number of voters who believe the country is on the wrong track (56 percent) to his anemic, but improving, job approval numbers. Bush's overall approval rating hit 50 percent for the first time since January, according to the poll conducted by Ipsos-Public Affairs.

A month ago, the poll showed a hypothetical Kerry-Edwards ticket at 47 percent and Bush-Cheney at 44 percent, essentially a tie.

Since June, Kerry has increased his percentage of strong supporters, a sign that he has rallied his base. He also slightly strengthened his support in the South and among voters with incomes from $25,000 to $50,000, the AP-Ipsos poll found.

It was unknown what, if any, credit should go to Edwards. The self-made millionaire and former trial lawyer has talked of "two Americas," one for the privileged and another for everybody else.

Republican voter Hal Pruett, a human resources director in McMinnville, Tenn., said Edwards will help the Democratic ticket in the GOP-leaning South. "Because he's from the South, people will give them a close look," said Pruett, 56.

Of the 804 registered voters surveyed, just 49 percent said they approve of Bush's handling of the economy, but that's up a few percentage points since May.

Mary Ann Hatton, 44, a Democrat who works in a Lexington, Ky., business office, said she's finding less reason to blame Bush for the economy. "I would fault him more on the war" in Iraq, she said.

Less than half, 46 percent, approve of his handling of domestic issues such as health care, education and the environment - a slight improvement over last month.

Bush gained ground among suburban women, a key constituency that increased its backing for Bush from 41 percent in June to 52 percent.

His ratings on handling foreign policy and the war in Iraq, while low, remained steady or slightly improved. The poll was taken shortly after Iraqis gained limited control of their new government.

Bush has been buoyed by a stream of economic data pointing to an economic recovery, including a plunge in unemployment insurance applications reported Thursday by the Labor Department.

"The conditions for a Bush victory are all there - a strong economy, an improving position in the global war on terror and a growing sense that there are sharp and clear differences in values between the two campaigns," said top Bush adviser Karl Rove.

The economy remains a potent issue for Democrats, said Mark Mellman, a pollster for Kerry.

"We're still seeing people squeezed between prices that are rising and incomes that aren't," he said.

The poll had margin of error of 3.5 percentage points.

 

I resent that, I'm a moderate independant , I don't believe in parties or sides, they destroy independent thought. The only party I'm apart of is the one that wants this corrupt administration out, and I guess under T-J and bama terms, that makes one a anti american, flag burning, liberal. however, every time I mention that I voted for bush in 2000, it goes on deaf ears because they are not capable of seeing in terms other than black and white.

 

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated...

 

TRANSCRIPT OF VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY'S CIVIL, DIGNIFIED PHONE CALL TO CONGRATULATE SENATOR JOHN EDWARDS ON HIS SELECTION TO THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET
Official White House Transcript

[BEGIN TRANSCRIPT]

[DIALING TONES]
[PHONE RINGING]

SENATOR EDWARDS: Hello?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: [Muffled] Good morning. [Coughs] I'm calling from the National Association of Homo-Looking Ambulance Chasers. Would you be interested in a complementary subscription to the Sissies With Big Zitty Boils on Their Upper Lips Digest?

SENATOR EDWARDS: I'm afraid not. But thank you very much for the kind offer, and have a great day!

[CLICK]

THE VICE PRESIDENT: [Laughter]

[DIALING TONES]
[PHONE RINGING]

SENATOR EDWARDS: Hello? John Edwards speaking.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: [Falsetto] Hello? This is Mrs. Bertha McGillicuddy calling on behalf of the North Carolina Obese Ugly Democrat Wives Club. May I please speak with anyone to whom you're married who might be confused with Tipper Gore's slightly younger, yet even more fat-a$$ed clone?

SENATOR EDWARDS: Sorry, I can't help you there, ma'am. Good luck finding your party though!

[CLICK]

THE VICE PRESIDENT: [Laughter & Knee Slapping]

[DIALING TONES]
[PHONE RINGING]


SENATOR EDWARDS: Hello? Senator Edwards here.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: [Faux Ebonics] Yo. Mutherfracking Dan Quayle? What up, biotch?

SENATOR EDWARDS: Dan Quayle? I'm afraid you've reached the wrong number.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Frack that! Senator Pretty Boy, right? Spell potato for baby-daddy, cracka!

SENATOR EDWARDS: Sorry. I have to go now.

[CLICK]

THE VICE PRESIDENT: [Laughter & Convulsive Snorting]

THE VICE PRESIDENT: [Sighs]

[DIALING TONES]
[PHONE RINGING]


SENATOR EDWARDS: Hello?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Congratulations.

SENATOR EDWARDS: Mr. Vice President? Is that you?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Yeah.

SENATOR EDWARDS: Thank you, sir! May I say, first, that I have Caller ID, and second, that I'm looking forward to an honorable campaign in which all Americans can take pride in–

[CLICK]
[DIAL TONE]

THE VICE PRESIDENT: [Mumbling] Fracking [unintelligible] Breck Girl [unintelligible] pretty boy a-hole [unintelligible] sh*t [unintelligible] fracker [unintelligible] [unintelligible] [unintelligible] [unintelligible]

[END TRANSCRIPT]

 

nice poll Kerrywith 8 point led after veep pick. Funny thing about polls an Ap poll yesterday gives Bush 4 point, 49 to 45 led.

 

The AP poll was taken over three days, two of which , were before John Kerry and John Edwards were even seen together.

The NBC poll had Kerry up by 9
The CNN poll had Kerry up by 9
A Cbs poll (i think) had Kerry up by 11
A Zogby poll had kerry up by 2
a Time Magazine Poll had Kerry up by 4

A Time Magazine poll had Edwards at 47% and Cheney at 38% . The question was " who would you rather have as President".

The polls will fluctuate , but the AP poll is probably the most off by far.

 

Polls don't mean a thing until election day... come to think of it, since polls represent popular vote, they really don't mean anything even on election day.

Right boys?



Right!

 

How many Bush administration officials does it take to change a light bulb?
SEVEN:

(1) one to deny that a light bulb needs to be replaced;

(2) one to attack and question the patriotism of anyone who has questions about the light bulb;

(3) one to blame the previous administration for the need of a new light bulb;

(4) one to arrange the invasion of a country rumored to have a secret stockpile of light bulbs;

(5) one to get together with Vice President Cheney and figure out how to pay Halliburton Industries one million dollars for a light bulb;

(6) one to arrange a photo-op session showing Bush changing the light bulb while dressed in a flight suit and wrapped in an American flag;

(7) and finally one to explain to Bush the difference between screwing a light bulb and screwing the country.