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Kevin Porter Jr: What is his ideal role?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Stat Nerd Perspective, Oct 22, 2022.

  1. DatRocketFan

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    Pffft don't b using cold teammates as an excuse to why kpj isn't passing to them when they are wide open. It's cause he doesn't even have the vision or the passing ability to do it as he's trying to score.

    Kpj should absolutely b practicing on how to utilize different type of passes and other abilities that point guards are suppose to Do. Our offense looks like a discombulated cluster fk. It's really reminds me of McHale type offense where silas is letting kpj wing it after he waste time dribbling the ball.

    Folks been btching for years that Harden waste too much time on the clock and isn't getting everybody involved. Kpj is doing the exact same sht but a poorer imitation of it and is still getting support from those same exact folks.

    We are 0-3 kpj shouldn't b freezing out teammates.
     
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  2. bmelo

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    I dont even look at stats. He looks trash point guard since day 1 and very good versatile scorer since day 1 too. from what i read numbers just prove it. He would be great 6th man since we already have guard scorer but he wont accept it on the worst team in the league so i would wait a season and capitalize on his worth while also getting shot at Wemby
     
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    How about just showing improvement in the most important area for a volume scorer? Efficiency. If he is going to take 17+ shots a game he can’t be a low efficiency guy.

    When it’s time to make decisions on others guys and their roles, if they continue to do what they are doing in years 2,3,4 it won’t be smart to stick with them.
     
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  4. HorryForThree

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    My concern is the time we're wasting invested in this in lieu of alternatives. Development years are precious. This is our final one before we HAVE to compete. KPJ has been given a full season of PG duties and at some point if he's not panning out, we need to try him at a guard/SF role and explore other PGs on this team - TyTy, Nix, etc.
     
  5. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    Yes, KPJ is to blame for everything.

    Here's the truth. Many posters on this site need a scapegoat. Last year, it was Wood, and anyone who defended him was bashed. Now he's on the Mavs and excelling.

    This year, it's been KPJ. It's not our prized rookie who with a .41 TS%. It's not Sengun, the allegedly master passer who is averaging nearly three times as many turnovers as assists. It's not the fact that Christopher has shot so poorly (.35 TS%) that have we have virtually no guard depth. It's all KPJ.
     
  6. apollo33

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    To answer your question, probably end of this season. We still have our pick this year, so we can punt this season and see what KPJ can make a magical turn. After this, OKC starts to gain picks and swaps from us and we have no choice but to win as many games as possible
     
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  7. HorryForThree

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    What frustrates me about KPJ discussions, especially those done by Rockets Twitter media (Roosh, Gatlin, etc.) is that discussing KPJ's play it too often conflated with KPJ the person. They play up his back story, the challenges he's been through, the demons he's overcoming, and all that, in a way that makes criticizing his play equivalent with "giving up" on the person. This really isn't rational or helpful, and makes it impossible to have honest discussions about his strengths and weaknesses and where he fits.
     
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  8. DatRocketFan

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    Pffft wood was a problem on the team with the simple fact that he wouldn't play defense and was a ball hog when we have kpj and green both needing it. He also had a behavior issue, quit on the team and refuses to play like a big man. Man doesn't want to screen, box out, rebound and he fking refuses to play defense.

    Guess why he's a sixth man instead of a starter for the mavs?

    Christopher isn't our starter pg or starting guard. Smith is a rookie getting freeze out by our starter pg. And sengun got demoted to bench bc of our incompetent pg.

    But ya since we are 0-3 kpj should be able to freeze out folks when he couldn't even run an offense
     
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  9. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    LOL. You just need a scapegoat because it's easier to focus criticism on a singular entity than analyze the team in general. Wood had flaws, but also a lot talent. KPJ is the same. You give up too early on guys like that, you often get burned.
     
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    KPJ is absolutely not a starting caliber floor general. But he is better than the other options we have. He's not even the 2nd best natural passer on the team. I'd put Sengun comfortably first followed by Tyty/Garuba/Christopher as all having better vision than KPJ. He's just better than them at scoring of course, which is all he needs to be doing. This is the infuriating part. Silas has this backwards. The starting lineup should be Green-Gordon-Martin-Jabari-Sengun with KPJ taking over for Sengun as the ball handler and giving us a scoring punch off the bench.
     
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    My God, if I had imitate a post from the scapegoat contingency of this board, I couldn’t have done a better job. Bravo. You encapsulate everything I mean.
     
  12. DatRocketFan

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    We needed a big man to play defense. Wood refuses to do that and had attitude problem. He doesn't set screen for kpj or green properly and demanded the ball too much, he'll there were instance where the man wanted to bring the ball up the court.
    It's kinda telling that u have sht talent assessment if you thought Wood was good for our team. He was supposedly our best player and we still got ass blasted to last place
     
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    Ah yes instead of pointing out that we don't really have a real pg or point out his flaws that cause him to excel as a pg or run an actual offense, I should use my rage to get mad at the likes of christoper, garry bird, garuba, tyty, and nix for not doing more for our team to avoid being 0-3.

    That's like getting mad at the 13th player on the bench instead of the starter for not doing his dam job. Ridiculous
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Is he taking 17 shots a game? Good his efficiency will go up then....

    How is Christian Wood's efficiencey? 24.5mpg 25ppg and 10 rebounds...for you stats centric folks....why with such UBER ****ING EFFICIENCY is he not a difference maker?

    Huh?

    Right because efficiency is not the end all be all, is it? Just something for some of you agenders to b**** about a player you don't like, and offer ZERO solutions mind you.....I mean KPJ is 1 year into learning to play PG, is up and down for sure, but he is doing it at the org's request, and they like what he is doing just gave him about 20m a year to show that.

    Putting him at 6th man is not a solution - it is robbing peter to pay paul, we don't have anyone other than KPJ at the moment to start at PG......that is the truth......we are stuck hoping he gets better and listening to people with agendas against the kid whine over and over and over.....been there done that...done with it.

    Yet, some of you want him to be already Magic Johnson, or Steve Nash - I mean honestly......

    And KPJ is not the guy struggling the most on this team it is Jabari! Yet, you don't hear about him....do ya.

    DD
     
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    Some fans still label him a teenager while he is 2-3 years older than his teammates. I don't see how he could improve his skills. There is a consensus that unless you are a very late bloomer, then by year three, you should make a giant leap. You see it with a lot of players. KPJ did a big jump, too, since he got off Cleveland, but he isn't who he or Silas thinks Kevin is, and there is a slight chance he will be. Ask yourself if any of the top15 teams would trade their pg for KPJ, and you will see his worth as a point guard. For me, his most significant improvement will be accepting that he isn't Harden but a serial killer, defensive prodigy, and buckets-getter. Then we should play make through Sengun, but since Silas doesn't know anything other than high pick and roll with vertical spacing, there goes that.
     
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  16. DatRocketFan

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    Honestly let sengun run the offense, and focus on scoring KPJ is a scorer. Man shouldn't b wasting time trying to look to pass to teammates he cant see. It's like asking near blind man to guide you home
     
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    My apologies. 16.7 shots per game.

    This season so far Christian Wood is 39th in the NBA in total winshares and 1st in winshares per minute. His Uber efficient 25/10 IS making a difference. The right role can bring out the best in a player.
     
  18. Dobbizzle

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    Ok, so James Harden, the bastion of efficiency has how many rings? You know, as efficiency is all that matters in a star player.
     
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  19. DaDakota

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    Who cares about win shares, we are talking efficiency that is the stat that you stat whores were tossing around.......???? Can't move the goal post every time someone shows you that your theorem is flawed.

    If you feel like posting how Win Shares is computed, I will break that stat wide open with why it is flawed......not that as a programmer myself who deals in AI and data every single day would know........

    DD
     
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    In that line up Green would be the best ball handler. Sengun would be the best passer.
     

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