Post-up game is dead? Here's what Hakeem said about that

Dream shook all the fake basketball fans

Post game is for people with skill

 

Rockets should sign prime Hakeem. Gitrdun, Stone.

 

In before they accuse @AroundTheWorld of putting Alperen in the same sentence/stratosphere with Hakeem.

 

He's right, we really need to draft a good post up player

 

If prime Dream was on this team he'd be on the bench because he doesn't fit with KPJ.

 

By the way, no one, no one at all, is saying run the offense through Sengun in the post. That is a made up strawman by the likes of @DaDakota and @Reeko.

We are saying Sengun should be a PART of the offense, through dribble hand offs, high post, short rolls where the guards actually open their eyes and pass if he’s open, and yes, from time to time when there is a mismatch - some post ups. Sengun’s best skill right now is playmaking, so having him touch the ball, all over the court not just in the post, helps the guards out and creates better shots for them, instead of them hotdogging and impersonating Cat and Franchise out there.

From the tape that I saw from the Turkish league that made me realize Sengun was a great prospect, it wasn’t all post ups, there was a ton of pick and rolls but that requires guards that actually have some IQ to execute. Being a “lob threat” is so incredibly overrated, every good team can execute a pnr without throwing an alley oop. Neither Draymond or Looney are lob threats and the Warriors create easy layups for them.

This is going to become glaringly obvious when fans realize Jabari is standing in the corner wide ass open screaming for the ball while the guards have tunnel vision. That’s why Sengun needs to be in the lineup, he is the only one consistently looking to create advantages for his teammates.

 

The post up game isn't dead, but it's definitely different. Illegal defenses are now legal. To get Hakeem the ball in the post today, you'd have to have a lot more motion to prevent the defense from swarming him as the ball is passed to him. But guys still post up today, so he's right. It's just a lot harder now.

 

post-play ain’t dead if you’re elite at it like Embiid and Jokic

Sengun = .93 ppp and a 18% turnover rate in the post

 

There's two people in the league that have an elite post game and consistently kill teams with it. Embiid and Jokic.

That's literally it

 

I mentioned this about Sengun before, but if he is unable to develop range then he has to become absolutely ELITE in the post in order to become a star in this league.

 

if Sengun can end up like Jokic and Embiid in the post, that would be great…I won’t be holding my breath on that tho

Sengun was posting up on 21% of his possessions, so what is the big deal? Y’all want 30%? 40?

he had 22% usage as a rookie, and had a 30% usage rate in game 1 against the Hawks…He needs more?

 

You are talking too much sense. Thanks for sharing these datas with us. But I don't think that everyone will be grateful. Facts&figures are hard, give them cheap opinion.

 

There is nothing wrong with having an effective post player per se - the problem is generally those players who are more effective in the post are less switchable defenders meaning they cause problems elsewhere so the league is increasingly turning to switchable defenders and most players capable of switching to multiple positions probably spent their time offensively working on their guard skills rather than back to the basket skills....and really in this day and age you kind of have to be able to shoot like a guard from deep whether you are post player or not - it's the #1 skill to get you on the court against elite competition.

Hakeem could and would dominate today and any player up to the task could try to do the same but I think it will take a special type of player who has the size advantage against most player to make it an easy bucket from the post AND the skill/speed to pull off all the switchable needs and guard like deep shooting. Kat is about the closest thing to that today and his defensive limitations on the perimeter are a BIG reason to why they brought in Gobert as a rotational rim stopper. If that proves to be successful to that team maybe the pendulum will swing a bit and Gobert/KAT or Mobley/Allen pairings will be attempted more but until then, people will continue to double down on spending more time developing players that look more like the Warriors in a team concept rather than teams that look like the TWolves.

 

BUMP BUMP BUMP SOFT HOOK is not much of a post game.

 

Of course it’s not dead. Teams just don’t really run through it anymore.


https://www.theringer.com/platform/...49/post-up-dead-nba-brooklyn-nets-joel-embiid

 

If we had prime Dream, KPJ would have a lob target and be either 3&D off ball or 6th man.

 

Dream was also arguably the greatest defensive center of all time. It’s okay, I’m sure y’all think Sengun can be that too