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2022 Midterms

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Xerobull, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. TheresTheDagger

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    I wasn't aware the election results were in.
     
  2. Reeko

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    you’re not aware of a lot of things

    if u have anything useful to say, lemme know instead of wasting my time
     
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  3. TheresTheDagger

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    Here's something useful...

    If I'm wasting your time because you respond to me...who's really to blame there?

    Hmm....
     
  4. deb4rockets

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    Republicans....
    My daughter's gonna have to go through childbirth and keep that baby from her pedophile rapist. I don't care if she can't raise it herself. I don't care if she can't go to college. I don't care if it traumatizes her 13 year old body giving birth.

    Republicans after another school massacre, mass shooting at a parade, mall, concert, or church...

    We send our thoughts and prayers, but I'll be damn if we can't keep our assault weapons.

    Republicans when it comes to free or affordable health are, or any of the reasons they voted no to below is no. They call it socialism)communism. Screw the poor. Feed the rich.

     
  5. jiggyfly

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    Did you just post the equivalent of I'm rubber, you're glue?
     
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  6. Commodore

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    No wonder independents never win with that mentality. Are you an election deniers too?
     
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  8. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Education and income are two strong indicators of civic participation levels, you can do the math beyond that.

    Whut?
     
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  10. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Confusing times we are living under aren’t they?
     
  11. CCorn

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    Both sides bad

     
  12. Commodore

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    The problem is aspects of the process that inherently don't ensure a transparent and fair election.

    Generating thousands of ballots that can be mailed in or dropped off by a single person creates chain of custody issues and opportunities for a relatively small number of individuals to perpetrate fraud. Electronic machines without paper receipts have the same problem (a small number of programmers could do it).

    If only a single day of voting is impractical, then having a couple of weeks of IN PERSON early voting with multiple locations is a reasonable compromise (the tradeoff being more time gives more opportunity for shenanigans). That still ensures you have ballots being cast with election observers in a controlled environment.

    You could still have vote by mail for those that opt-in and give a valid reason, but that would be a much smaller number.

    France has a good system with paper ballots and they finish counting in hours (vs say Maricopa County AZ which takes a week, which is criminal), but they only have a single day of voting. It would be very hard to cheat at scale with the system below:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_France#Voting_procedures

     
  13. Amiga

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    lol

    "The poll shows that 71 percent of Trump 2020 voters regard Democrats as a major threat to democracy. But just 52 percent of Biden voters say the same about the GOP.

    And independents are significantly more likely to view Democrats as a major threat than Republicans. Although more than 6 in 10 view each party as at least a minor threat, just 23 percent view the GOP as a major threat, while 31 percent say the same of Democrats. Independents are actually more likely to view voting by mail as a major threat to democracy (31 percent) than the GOP."
     
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    I also imagine many of the independents are like the “libertarians” on this board. Too ashamed to admit they support Republicans.
     
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  15. Amiga

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    Except every audits (including manual counting) shows the election result was correct. AZ and GA went through a million audits. Nothing.

    You are misinformed about France. They report a preliminary result in a few hours (not finished counting in hours). They publish the results nearly 2 days later. They finalize it 4 days later. Now also consider the difference between them and the US. France has 1/5 of the voting population of the US. They have a single race vs a thousand in the US. Their election is centralized by the federal government vs at least 50 different governments (and more when you count all the cities) in the US. They have a single timezone vs 6 in the US. There is all kind of stupid rules at the local level that caused delay result in the US, such as a ban on starting to count ballots until voting ends (even though they have millions that voted early).

    You are part of a group easily fooled to believe the big lie.
     
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  16. Major

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    Because they made it easier for rural voters to vote and harder for urban voters to vote. This was pretty obvious with the law.
     
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    France also votes on a Sunday instead of a workday. GOPers here are opposed both to that and making election day a holiday.
     
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    I assume you support federalizing elections then? Also interesting that you support in-person proxy voting.
     
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    Never understood why we don't nationalize federal elections. I'm sorry Alabama but your shitty Reps effect me also. All federal office seats should have the same standards applied to how they get there.

    State and local elections? Sure let that be obviously run by the states, municipalities etc.
     
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